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RE: Two Big Problems with Single-Payer Healthcare

Posted on: January 11, 2020 at 11:18:03 CT
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Two Big Problems with Single-Payer Healthcare - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:13:21
     RE: Two Big Problems with Single-Payer Healthcare - MOCO SON MU - 1/11 11:18:03
     Here's the main reason it won't work: - GA Tiger MU - 1/11 10:58:39
          There actually is a perfect solution for healthcare - pickle MU - 1/11 11:21:16
               ^^^Has had trouble conceptualizing perfection.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/11 11:37:53
     any single payer system needs to come with an independent - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:41:12
          There is no such thing as an independent judiciary system - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:53:52
               not a socialist, gvmt monopoly - pickle MU - 1/11 10:04:34
               closest thing to it is the workmans comp system - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:01:53
               But government is always cost conscious and conflict free - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:54:42
                    Government is two things - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:57:22
                         you get sideways about the nature of gvmt (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 10:47:00
                              yep (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 11:17:45
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 09:59:35
     My two issues are - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:29:07
          good post, meat(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/11 10:31:23
          please apply this elsewhere (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 10:02:35
          It also keeps new doctors showing up, along with nurses. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/11 09:48:26
               The cost of medical education - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:52:09
                    my son's was $160k, not that bad - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:04:44
          one issue, the 3 people in my family that are providers - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:45:46
               i guarantee they are in it for the money - pickle MU - 1/11 10:01:52
                    they did NOT go into the field for the money - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:03:05
          I know we have our disagreements - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:31:55
          Nailed it. And in a competitive market, profits won't last - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:31:49
               Insurance companies are great at removing the competitive - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:48:35
                    It's not an even remotely a free market. It's a cartel - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:57:37
                         yep, but I don't see us going back to 100% private pay ever - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:07:44
                    government gives them that - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:50:43
                         the worst is when the gov't contracts with an insurance co - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:08:58
                         I spent 18 months trying to negotiate an increase in Cigna's - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:57:27
               my biggest issue - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:37:59
                    Company funded insurance played a great role in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:52:19
                         company funded healthcare is the only hope now - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:59:08
                              That was the wrong assumption last time - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 10:23:26
                    Two things: - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:42:58
                         RE: Two things: - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:49:18
               "greedy producers preying on sick people" - rask (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:33:00
                    And those who seem most against competition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:33:53
          One other thing - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:31:27
               The only way it can exist is taxing the middle class. The - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:44:58
                    RE: The only way it can exist is taxing the middle class. The - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:52:34
               RE: One other thing - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:31:53
                    RE: One other thing - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:33:41
                         I know, but that isn't what the socialists BELIEVE - they - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 10:01:36
          bravo! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:29:27
     Translation: 1. Like all socialized services, in - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:25:47
          Food is definitely next. I also wouldn't be surprised by a - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:28:18
     Why can't you and pickle summarize these - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:16:36
          I just did above for you (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:29:53
          The impact of Uncle Sam nationalizing your doctor - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/11 09:27:27
          Because it's all important, imo. It's a 3 minute read. - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:25:08
               Then quit clogging the board - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:28:44
                    No, I'll keep posting them. You're not the target market for - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:29:46
                         Well you got 90 to seal slap like a drooling idiot - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:36:26
                              Disagree - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:39:33
                              There are 5 people engaged in a good conversation in this - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:38:58
                                   Well quantity obviously doesn't equal quality - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:43:05
                                        By the way, even at an average speed, you could have been - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:44:10
                         subtle "you're not the target...think pieces" - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:30:39
          I could not agree more - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:20:59
               Many times details matter - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:30:40
               Long articles are really easy to read on a phone. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:25:46
                    especially with reader view (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 10:00:57




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