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Posted on: January 11, 2020 at 09:49:18 CT
meatiger MU
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Mostly agree, but, as you know, people do not have patience for the market to correct itself

I would to it in two phases.

Phase 1, everyone over a certain income is freed from any form of government controlled healthcare....regulations regarding coverage, access, etc. those below that income level are given some sort of healthcare help....which can come through various means....charity, basic healthcare from local government, etc. they will still have to pay something, but it works through the transition.

Os costs come under control ( and other means of providing healthcare are determined), you can take government out.

Just a thought. I am sure there can be many holes shot down, but I am a fan of transitions
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Two Big Problems with Single-Payer Healthcare - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:13:21
     RE: Two Big Problems with Single-Payer Healthcare - MOCO SON MU - 1/11 11:18:03
     Here's the main reason it won't work: - GA Tiger MU - 1/11 10:58:39
          There actually is a perfect solution for healthcare - pickle MU - 1/11 11:21:16
               ^^^Has had trouble conceptualizing perfection.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/11 11:37:53
     any single payer system needs to come with an independent - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:41:12
          There is no such thing as an independent judiciary system - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:53:52
               not a socialist, gvmt monopoly - pickle MU - 1/11 10:04:34
               closest thing to it is the workmans comp system - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:01:53
               But government is always cost conscious and conflict free - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:54:42
                    Government is two things - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:57:22
                         you get sideways about the nature of gvmt (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 10:47:00
                              yep (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 11:17:45
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 09:59:35
     My two issues are - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:29:07
          good post, meat(nm) - dangertim MU - 1/11 10:31:23
          please apply this elsewhere (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 10:02:35
          It also keeps new doctors showing up, along with nurses. - RHAYWORTH MU - 1/11 09:48:26
               The cost of medical education - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:52:09
                    my son's was $160k, not that bad - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:04:44
          one issue, the 3 people in my family that are providers - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:45:46
               i guarantee they are in it for the money - pickle MU - 1/11 10:01:52
                    they did NOT go into the field for the money - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:03:05
          I know we have our disagreements - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:31:55
          Nailed it. And in a competitive market, profits won't last - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:31:49
               Insurance companies are great at removing the competitive - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:48:35
                    It's not an even remotely a free market. It's a cartel - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:57:37
                         yep, but I don't see us going back to 100% private pay ever - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:07:44
                    government gives them that - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:50:43
                         the worst is when the gov't contracts with an insurance co - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 10:08:58
                         I spent 18 months trying to negotiate an increase in Cigna's - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/11 09:57:27
               my biggest issue - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:37:59
                    Company funded insurance played a great role in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:52:19
                         company funded healthcare is the only hope now - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:59:08
                              That was the wrong assumption last time - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 10:23:26
                    Two things: - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:42:58
                         RE: Two things: - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:49:18
               "greedy producers preying on sick people" - rask (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:33:00
                    And those who seem most against competition - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:33:53
          One other thing - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:31:27
               The only way it can exist is taxing the middle class. The - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:44:58
                    RE: The only way it can exist is taxing the middle class. The - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:52:34
               RE: One other thing - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:31:53
                    RE: One other thing - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:33:41
                         I know, but that isn't what the socialists BELIEVE - they - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 10:01:36
          bravo! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:29:27
     Translation: 1. Like all socialized services, in - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:25:47
          Food is definitely next. I also wouldn't be surprised by a - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:28:18
     Why can't you and pickle summarize these - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:16:36
          I just did above for you (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:29:53
          The impact of Uncle Sam nationalizing your doctor - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 1/11 09:27:27
          Because it's all important, imo. It's a 3 minute read. - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:25:08
               Then quit clogging the board - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:28:44
                    No, I'll keep posting them. You're not the target market for - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:29:46
                         Well you got 90 to seal slap like a drooling idiot - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:36:26
                              Disagree - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:39:33
                              There are 5 people engaged in a good conversation in this - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:38:58
                                   Well quantity obviously doesn't equal quality - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/11 09:43:05
                                        By the way, even at an average speed, you could have been - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:44:10
                         subtle "you're not the target...think pieces" - 90Tiger STL - 1/11 09:30:39
          I could not agree more - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 1/11 09:20:59
               Many times details matter - meatiger MU - 1/11 09:30:40
               Long articles are really easy to read on a phone. (nm) - ummmm MU - 1/11 09:25:46
                    especially with reader view (nm) - pickle MU - 1/11 10:00:57




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