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Well reasoned, but I would go a step further...
Posted on: June 4, 2019 at 21:55:17 CT
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Under the law the burden of proof is on the person taking a life or engaging in an action that may take a life.
An analogy - A guy is driving a Caterpillar with a big load in the bucket & is in a big hurry. A cardboard box rolls in front of him & he's not sure what is in it. Perhaps it is moving because of the wind, or it could be a rabbit or squirrel, dog or whatever... or maybe it's some kids playing in that box in the construction zone.
It would be a big pain to stop, get out & see what's in the box & move it, but maybe there's a kid in there. If he checks, who knows it might be a rabid dog or raccoon in there. He could be at risk.
It is either a human or it is not. He either knows whether it is a human or he doesn't know. What does the law say? When would it be legitimate to just say to heck with it and run over the box.
IF:
It is a human:
A. and he knows it - & runs over it, he is guilty of murder
B. and he didn't know it - he is guilty of manslaughter
If it is not a human:
C. and he knows it for certain - he is not guilty of anything (other than animal cruelty maybe?)
D. and he doesn't know for certain - he is guilty of criminal negligence
If he doesn't know for certain that it is not a human being he should not take an action that could injure or kill what may or may not be a human being.
If some credible people are jumping up and down warning him that it is in fact a human being, then it would be absurd for him to do so.
In our case, there has been a scientific consensus for going on a century now that a new human being comes into existence at conception. The gametes, the reproductive cells the merge to create a new human being... the sperm and the oocyte (aka "egg") both have 23 chromosomes. When they combine, a new unicellular human being comes into existence... and that cell has the same 46 chromosomes in his or her DNA that he or she will have for the rest of his or her life. Sex, eye color, hair color and a myriad other things are already predetermined. An ontological change has occurred. All that is needed from that point on for that newly created human being to grow to maturity and survive is nutrition, food and water and a safe environment.
The timeline for that human being begins at conception and ends at death. The continuum starts at zygote, and continues on with various names in various cultures, such as fetus, baby, toddler, preschooler, kindergartner, grade schooler, pre-pubescent, teenager, young adult, adult, middle aged, retired, elderly...
The testimony of the medical text books and top embryologists from around the world was unanimous at the Senate subcommittee hearings on this topic:
"Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life began at conception.
* “Father of Modern Genetics” Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion … it is plain experimental evidence.”
* Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: “By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
* Dr. Richard V. Jaynes: “To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous.”
An analogy - A guy is driving a Caterpillar with a big load in the bucket & is in a big hurry. A cardboard box rolls in front of him & he's not sure what is in it. Perhaps it is moving because of the wind, or it could be a rabbit or squirrel, dog or whatever... or maybe it's some kids playing in that box in the construction zone.
It would be a big pain to stop, get out & see what's in the box & move it, but maybe there's a kid in there. If he checks, who knows it might be a rabid dog or raccoon in there. He could be at risk.
It is either a human or it is not. He either knows whether it is a human or he doesn't know. What does the law say? When would it be legitimate to just say to heck with it and run over the box.
IF:
It is a human:
A. and he knows it - & runs over it, he is guilty of murder
B. and he didn't know it - he is guilty of manslaughter
If it is not a human:
C. and he knows it for certain - he is not guilty of anything (other than animal cruelty maybe?)
D. and he doesn't know for certain - he is guilty of criminal negligence
If he doesn't know for certain that it is not a human being he should not take an action that could injure or kill what may or may not be a human being.
If some credible people are jumping up and down warning him that it is in fact a human being, then it would be absurd for him to do so.
In our case, there has been a scientific consensus for going on a century now that a new human being comes into existence at conception. The gametes, the reproductive cells the merge to create a new human being... the sperm and the oocyte (aka "egg") both have 23 chromosomes. When they combine, a new unicellular human being comes into existence... and that cell has the same 46 chromosomes in his or her DNA that he or she will have for the rest of his or her life. Sex, eye color, hair color and a myriad other things are already predetermined. An ontological change has occurred. All that is needed from that point on for that newly created human being to grow to maturity and survive is nutrition, food and water and a safe environment.
The timeline for that human being begins at conception and ends at death. The continuum starts at zygote, and continues on with various names in various cultures, such as fetus, baby, toddler, preschooler, kindergartner, grade schooler, pre-pubescent, teenager, young adult, adult, middle aged, retired, elderly...
The testimony of the medical text books and top embryologists from around the world was unanimous at the Senate subcommittee hearings on this topic:
"Dr. Micheline M. Mathews-Roth, Harvard medical School, gave confirming testimony, supported by references from over 20 embryology and other medical textbooks that human life began at conception.
* “Father of Modern Genetics” Dr. Jerome Lejeune told the lawmakers: “To accept the fact that after fertilization has taken place a new human has come into being is no longer a matter of taste or opinion … it is plain experimental evidence.”
* Dr. Hymie Gordon, Chairman, Department of Genetics at the Mayo Clinic, added: “By all the criteria of modern molecular biology, life is present from the moment of conception.”
* Dr. Richard V. Jaynes: “To say that the beginning of human life cannot be determined scientifically is utterly ridiculous.”
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I've been using old numbers... and it only keeps going up (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 6/4 20:48:47Well reasoned, but I would go a step further... - JeffB MU - 6/4 21:55:17