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just to clarify, I don't think its 100% on Cuonzo and

Posted on: February 6, 2019 at 13:39:04 CT
FIJItiger MU
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Harris deserves no fault. I'd even probably agree that it was more Harris' fault than Cuonzo.

But ultimately Cuonzo is the head coach and he needs a pg, so by miscalculating how Harris would react to the role he defined for him Cuonzo had to play the second half of last season without a pg and this year with rather shaky inexperience pg play. So regardless of who is at fault, Cuonzo is who suffers.

I didn't bring up Harris. I made a post about how impressive Pinson is in my opinion. Then I responded to a post about Harris someone else made.

Edited by FIJItiger at 13:47:34 on 02/06/19
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On a positive note, Pinson really looks like he - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 11:36:51
     I agree - Still needs to add a little muscle but he is - Tiger Tim MU - 2/6 16:07:17
     everybody will sleep better now - Jeff85 MU - 2/6 14:22:50
     Meanwhile, Strike 1 just surpassed his MU PT last night - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 12:40:02
          That doesn't mean it didn't set us back 1.5 years - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:42:46
               NCST can't see his value either - Jeff85 MU - 2/6 14:25:05
               "Had we managed it better". No, had Blake managed it better - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 13:42:28
                    Blake is a player, not a coach. He doesn't define his role(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:43:58
                         Personal responsibility is a thing. - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 13:47:34
                              You seem to assume Harris is unhappy at NC State - zodiac6 JC - 2/6 16:52:56
                                   He left because of playing time, so I feel pretty - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 18:35:55
                                        He didn't transfer because of playing time. - zodiac6 JC - 2/6 20:25:28
                                             Mark Smith is playing this year. He was unhappy with his - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 23:40:25
                              That is what the old people used to say about Kim's team - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:50:13
                                   They are not mutually exclusive concepts. - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 14:01:04
                                        Yes they can, that is their job. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:04:13
                                             No it isn't, that's nowhere in his contract(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 14:08:19
                                                  Yeesh. Good talk (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:11:42
                                                       Disagree, you still don't understand personal responsibility - Mizzmi27 MU - 2/6 14:26:31
                                                            It's all either a bunch of strawman or whataboutism - Domino MU - 2/6 14:32:36
                                                                 My position is rather consistent and unshifting - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:36:42
                                   Ah, the old trick of "when I'm on the losing - MNTIGER MU - 2/6 13:59:07
                                        Its an example, sorry you found it offensive - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:03:13
                                             It's not offensive. It's sad......very sad that you - MNTIGER MU - 2/6 14:06:43
                                                  When an analogy calls for an example of - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:11:05
                                                       RE: When an analogy calls for an example of - MNTIGER MU - 2/6 14:28:59
               The only issue was recruiting Blake Harris at all. He was - sprintcar STL - 2/6 12:56:24
                    But that's all FIJI knows how to do - Cosmo MU - 2/6 13:10:00
                         yes (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/6 14:19:24
                         INDEED (nm) - eatatjoes MU - 2/6 13:51:20
                         this^^^(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/6 13:21:42
                    Blake was never gonna be that guy - Domino MU - 2/6 13:06:55
                         Pinson appears to be twice the player Harris is. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:13:39
                              Which is what this thread is originally about - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:14:42
                                   how were we set back at all? There wasn't an answer - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/6 13:24:22
                                        We had already signed Harris, he was on our team - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:26:06
                                             Harris gave his minutes to geist and vanleer. You would - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/6 13:28:54
                                                  We would have had 4 or 5 more wins last year - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:32:04
                                                       says no one with a clue about the game of basketball - Jeff85 MU - 2/6 14:27:34
                                             Some people have all the talent in the world but it never - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:28:16
                                                  Agree, Keon Lawrence was an example I used below - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:30:49
                                                       You should give up. You are never going to convinve a lot - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/6 13:35:37
                                                            just to clarify, I don't think its 100% on Cuonzo and - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:39:04
                    we know he had the talent/ability, and it was a considerable - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:02:30
               It literally had no impact - Domino MU - 2/6 12:46:41
                    With certainty it caused us to lose like 4 or 5 - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:49:39
                         4 to 5 games. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/6 13:26:05
                              WVU, Illini, Florida, Ark, LSU - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:28:20
                                   3 turnovers in 6 minutes against WVU - hou4mu MU - 2/6 13:34:14
                                        Agree, we would win that game (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:40:34
                                   Maybe but he would have lost us 4 or 5 games too is - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/6 13:30:40
                                        Maybe, freshman pgs are shaky and inconsistent - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:33:58
                         lmfao (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/6 13:12:29
                         None of that is relevant. Harris isn't a fit with Martin - Domino MU - 2/6 13:05:08
                              So assuming he landed Mark Smith out of high school - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:10:29
                                   Yes, because that's what happens when you're working - Domino MU - 2/6 13:16:47
                                        He signed April 8th, as the 3rd member of our class (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:19:42
                                             Correct, in the Spring there aren't a lot of options - Domino MU - 2/6 13:40:15
                                                  Agree, he was the best viable option on the table at that - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:42:43
                                                       He wasn't a necessity. He was a gamble - Domino MU - 2/6 14:02:22
                                                            Looks like we beat out Michigan State, NC State, UConn, and - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:08:43
                                                                 And still not a kid that Martin would have recruited - Domino MU - 2/6 14:13:33
                                                                      That doesn't matter, he was on his roster - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:15:44
                                                                           strawman - Domino MU - 2/6 14:24:58
                                                                                I think we are saying the same thing then - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 14:30:02
                              The notion that Harris was worth 4 or 5 wins is hilarious. - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:06:27
                                   Yeah, just because we could have used some more - Domino MU - 2/6 13:12:09
                         Which games did Harris win for us? - hou4mu MU - 2/6 13:04:36
                              He didn't, we mismanaged him and he left - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:08:00
                                   I guess NC State is mismanaging him too - hou4mu MU - 2/6 13:12:11
                                        That isn't what you asked. I don't follow NC State - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:13:18
                                             Nor on this topic, but that isn’t stopping you (nm) - WildCard MU - 2/6 14:20:47
                                             Harris isn't a good D1 guard. 2 coaches know it. - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:14:08
                                                  That's the problem with the mismanagement theory - hou4mu MU - 2/6 13:21:28
                                                  I'm sure more than that know it already.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 2/6 13:16:33
                                        Lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:12:37
                         No(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 2/6 13:00:50
                         No. Blake Harris isn't good (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:00:17
                              You should have watched our 2017-18 team, fun season(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:03:51
                                   I did. I watched our bad point guard transfer out and - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 13:05:48
                                        Not falling for that, you don't think Geist is a better pg(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:08:44
                                             Everybody thinks Geist is better. Except you. - hou4mu MU - 2/6 13:16:48
                                                  No, people say that don't know what they are watching - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 13:21:32
     RE: On a positive note, Pinson really looks like he - oldtgr MU - 2/6 12:34:32
          Hard to say because its kind of undefined at this - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:39:22
               it’s actually pretty easy to see what the coaches want - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/6 12:45:03
                    Then he probably won't excel - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:46:48
                         they will probably play faster in the furture - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/6 12:50:04
                              Agree with all that 100% - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:51:55
                                   Nah it’s still easy to see the vision the coaches have - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/6 12:55:36
                                        You have better foresight than I then (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:56:21
               RE: Hard to say because its kind of undefined at this - oldtgr MU - 2/6 12:42:51
     lot to be said for inner-city big-city guards.... - GapDaddy MU - 2/6 12:13:16
     Let's hope he and the other frosh learn to hate losing..nm - tigertix MU - 2/6 11:42:18
     i think all the freshmen will be good players(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/6 11:42:01
          Are you including Braun? - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 11:47:52
               I think he will be decent (nm) - Uncle John MU - 2/6 11:54:59
                    Braun needs to gain weight - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/6 12:03:00
                         Gonna be hard for him, he grew a bit - Domino MU - 2/6 12:08:49
                              Yea that’s why I mentioned as an upperclassman - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/6 12:11:12
                                   A lot of that will depend on how high-level the talent - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 2/6 12:18:04
                                        If Braun can develop strength he could be a high level talen - wu-tangtiger MU - 2/6 12:21:06
                                        If he can develop toughness, he can be a modern day - FIJItiger MU - 2/6 12:19:32
               no clue on him. i meant all 3 that have played so far(nm) - TigerA MU - 2/6 11:49:59
     Cuonzo found a hidden gem there(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 2/6 11:39:08
          He sucks-Teej (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 2/6 11:54:27
               Strike one (nm) - Uncle John MU - 2/6 11:55:37




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