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RE: I don't know if that is true.. Some courts have found

Posted on: February 21, 2018 at 12:23:57 CT
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Nevertheless, cooperating witnesses who pleaded guilty are not usually filing Brady motions. When a defendant cuts a deal with prosecutors, his sentence depends greatly on how the prosecutors view his cooperation. Moreover, in his plea, Flynn agreed to “forego the right to any further discovery or disclosures of information not already provided at the time of the entry of Flynn’s guilty plea.”

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/374738-evidence-withheld-in-flynn-case-brady-motion-makes-one-wonder
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Judge issues sua sponte order to Mueller team - Silas MU - 2/21 11:29:02
     RE: Judge issues sua sponte order to Mueller team - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/21 11:58:56
          You can talk in circles better than anyone I've ever seen. - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:44:54
               82 posts in 12 years. Double handles suck - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/21 12:52:32
                    Just saw this and WAY late but.... - zaaguy MU - 2/26 12:18:51
               he's a master "whataboutits" (nm) - Sal KC - 2/21 12:46:24
          😂😂😂😂😂😂 - Silas MU - 2/21 12:06:26
               And - mizzoumurfkc MU - 2/21 12:09:17
     Should we put you on suicide watch? (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 11:58:24
     Yeah, pretty standard stuff going on here - Sal KC - 2/21 11:48:48
          RE: Yeah, pretty standard stuff going on here - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/21 11:59:29
               Could be nothing - Sal KC - 2/21 12:04:17
                    But there's nothing to indictments, guilty pleas and - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/21 12:27:22
                         I'm sure it means something to those individuals - Sal KC - 2/21 12:29:22
                              Papa and Flynn weren't tied to the campaign? Weird - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/21 12:32:00
                                   The indictments were not - Sal KC - 2/21 12:34:56
     How will you defend Mueller - TGR84 MU - 2/21 11:45:56
     Hard to believe a judge had to issue that order - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:32:40
          LOL - mizzoumurfkc MU - 2/21 11:35:41
               Im with Spanky. Prosecution is supposed to share evidence - Badird MU - 2/21 11:40:15
                    Flynn plead guilty before he saw the evidence... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 11:59:52
                         The prosecution was required to provide the exculpatory - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:01:18
                              Not if there is no trial and the defendant immediately... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:02:45
                                   I don't know if that is true.. Some courts have found - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:17:57
                                        RE: I don't know if that is true.. Some courts have found - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:23:57
                                             All I am saying is your post made an absolute statement - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:35:21
                    No one here has even - mizzoumurfkc MU - 2/21 11:50:20
                         No, the ruling itself gives a very good indication of what - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:58:47
                              Nope... - mizzoumurfkc MU - 2/21 12:05:08
                              Not necessarily - Mormad MU - 2/21 12:01:22
                                   I’m sure someone with the means could check to see if this - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 12:03:51
                                        Agree completely. - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:08:53
                                             🤗 - Silas MU - 2/21 12:11:58
                                                  One example? Hey, good enough...clearly nothing there. - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:17:55
                                                       Just noticed the case you refer to was the Ted Stevens case? - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:27:35
                                                            Do you understand sua sponte? - Silas MU - 2/21 12:31:12
                                   RE: Not necessarily - mizzoumurfkc MU - 2/21 12:03:50
                         It means he felt the prosecution needed to be ordered to - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:51:30
                              It could mean - mizzoumurfkc MU - 2/21 11:55:33
                    They are REQUIRED to do so.. without the defense asking - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:41:24
                         When Flynn plead guilty it is over...Case closed...Done (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:01:52
                              Nope - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:18:46
                                   Yep... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:25:20
                              Not if the prosecution acted in bad faith. Overturned. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 12:04:06
                                   now that would be some judicial activism - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 12:14:54
                                        None of that matters, if the initial warrant is deemed bad. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 12:22:30
                                             oh, that's your angle? - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 12:39:31
                                   There was no trial...The moran plead guilty without seeing - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:10:51
                                        doesn't matter. It can still be overturned. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 12:16:55
                         the key part of that ruling is that it must be material - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:43:35
                              RE: the key part of that ruling is that it must be material - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:44:45
                                   and the sentence before states that it is material and - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:47:50
                                        Such as? - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:52:58
                                             i don't have the data, but from years of journal reading - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 12:04:15
                                             let's start with the rest of the info from your link - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:58:03
                                                  And the unhighlighted area of your post - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:03:13
                                                       reasonable probability of a different result - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 12:05:58
                                                            'undermine the confidence in the verdict' - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:54:53
                                                                 you're changing the goalposts - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 13:01:21
                                                                      Straight from your post - Spanky KU - 2/21 13:06:36
                                                                           that is definitely not in my post.(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 13:23:23
                                                                                Sorry..cnk’s post - Spanky KU - 2/21 13:41:21
                                                       in other words, "material" and "exculpatory"(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/21 12:04:33
               Nope.. just smarter than you - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:39:17
          "had to" - Silas MU - 2/21 11:34:00
               You tell me. The prosecution is required by to provide - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:37:03
                    so why did the judge have to do it? - Silas MU - 2/21 11:38:16
                         Apparently the prosecution was withholding evidence. - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:40:38
                              that's an enormous leap(nm) - gmmm98 MU - 2/21 11:47:01
                              you have yet to provide evidence that the prosecution - Silas MU - 2/21 11:43:55
                                   Lets try some simple logic here Silas. If the prosecutors - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:46:59
                                        they aren't required to turn over all evidence(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:48:09
                                             Words have meaning Silas ‘all evidence as required by law’. - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:50:22
                                                  yep, I skipped over "as required by law" - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:58:58
                                   Why do you think the judge ordered the prosecution to - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:46:42
                                        Oh, You’re Making Assumptions Because You Don’t Know - Silas MU - 2/21 11:48:22
                                             Why the order then Silas? Are judges in the habit of issuing - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:51:57
                                                  This one is. He does it in every case.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 12:26:44
               RE: "had to" - scan MU - 2/21 11:35:48
                    this is the same judge - Silas MU - 2/21 11:37:24
                         RE: this is the same judge - scan MU - 2/21 11:40:57




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