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Agree completely.

Posted on: February 21, 2018 at 12:08:53 CT

zaaguy MU

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No way to know for certain, but reviewing the judge's history would be a much better indicator as to whether or not there is potentially something "more" there.

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Judge issues sua sponte order to Mueller team - Silas MU - 2/21 11:29:02

RE: Judge issues sua sponte order to Mueller team - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 2/21 11:58:56

You can talk in circles better than anyone I've ever seen. - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:44:54

82 posts in 12 years. Double handles suck - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 2/21 12:52:32

Just saw this and WAY late but.... - zaaguy MU - 2/26 12:18:51

he's a master "whataboutits" (nm) - Sal KC - 2/21 12:46:24

😂😂😂😂😂😂 - Silas MU - 2/21 12:06:26

And - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 2/21 12:09:17

Should we put you on suicide watch? (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 11:58:24

Yeah, pretty standard stuff going on here - Sal KC - 2/21 11:48:48

RE: Yeah, pretty standard stuff going on here - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 2/21 11:59:29

Could be nothing - Sal KC - 2/21 12:04:17

But there's nothing to indictments, guilty pleas and - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 2/21 12:27:22

I'm sure it means something to those individuals - Sal KC - 2/21 12:29:22

Papa and Flynn weren't tied to the campaign? Weird - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 2/21 12:32:00

The indictments were not - Sal KC - 2/21 12:34:56

How will you defend Mueller - TGR84 MU - 2/21 11:45:56

Hard to believe a judge had to issue that order - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:32:40

LOL - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 2/21 11:35:41

Im with Spanky. Prosecution is supposed to share evidence - Badird MU - 2/21 11:40:15

Flynn plead guilty before he saw the evidence... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 11:59:52

The prosecution was required to provide the exculpatory - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:01:18

Not if there is no trial and the defendant immediately... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:02:45

I don't know if that is true.. Some courts have found - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:17:57

RE: I don't know if that is true.. Some courts have found - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:23:57

All I am saying is your post made an absolute statement - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:35:21

No one here has even - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 2/21 11:50:20

No, the ruling itself gives a very good indication of what - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:58:47

Nope... - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 2/21 12:05:08

Not necessarily - Mormad MU - 2/21 12:01:22

I’m sure someone with the means could check to see if this - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 12:03:51

Agree completely. - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:08:53

🤗 - Silas MU - 2/21 12:11:58

One example? Hey, good enough...clearly nothing there. - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:17:55

Just noticed the case you refer to was the Ted Stevens case? - zaaguy MU - 2/21 12:27:35

Do you understand sua sponte? - Silas MU - 2/21 12:31:12

RE: Not necessarily - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 2/21 12:03:50

It means he felt the prosecution needed to be ordered to - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:51:30

It could mean - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 2/21 11:55:33

They are REQUIRED to do so.. without the defense asking - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:41:24

When Flynn plead guilty it is over...Case closed...Done (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:01:52

Nope - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:18:46

Yep... - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:25:20

Not if the prosecution acted in bad faith. Overturned. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 12:04:06

now that would be some judicial activism - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 12:14:54

None of that matters, if the initial warrant is deemed bad. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 12:22:30

oh, that's your angle? - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 12:39:31

There was no trial...The moran plead guilty without seeing - DoltfromSTL MU - 2/21 12:10:51

doesn't matter. It can still be overturned. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/21 12:16:55

the key part of that ruling is that it must be material - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:43:35

RE: the key part of that ruling is that it must be material - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:44:45

and the sentence before states that it is material and - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:47:50

Such as? - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:52:58

i don't have the data, but from years of journal reading - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 12:04:15

let's start with the rest of the info from your link - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:58:03

And the unhighlighted area of your post - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:03:13

reasonable probability of a different result - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 12:05:58

'undermine the confidence in the verdict' - Spanky KU - 2/21 12:54:53

you're changing the goalposts - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 13:01:21

Straight from your post - Spanky KU - 2/21 13:06:36

that is definitely not in my post.(nm) - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 13:23:23

Sorry..cnk’s post - Spanky KU - 2/21 13:41:21

in other words, "material" and "exculpatory"(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/21 12:04:33

Nope.. just smarter than you - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:39:17

"had to" - Silas MU - 2/21 11:34:00

You tell me. The prosecution is required by to provide - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:37:03

so why did the judge have to do it? - Silas MU - 2/21 11:38:16

Apparently the prosecution was withholding evidence. - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:40:38

that's an enormous leap(nm) - gmmm98 MU

- 2/21 11:47:01

you have yet to provide evidence that the prosecution - Silas MU - 2/21 11:43:55

Lets try some simple logic here Silas. If the prosecutors - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:46:59

they aren't required to turn over all evidence(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:48:09

Words have meaning Silas ‘all evidence as required by law’. - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:50:22

yep, I skipped over "as required by law" - cnk ATL - 2/21 11:58:58

Why do you think the judge ordered the prosecution to - Spanky KU - 2/21 11:46:42

Oh, You’re Making Assumptions Because You Don’t Know - Silas MU - 2/21 11:48:22

Why the order then Silas? Are judges in the habit of issuing - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/21 11:51:57

This one is. He does it in every case.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 2/21 12:26:44

RE: "had to" - scan MU - 2/21 11:35:48

this is the same judge - Silas MU - 2/21 11:37:24

RE: this is the same judge - scan MU - 2/21 11:40:57