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Unless it is a fetus
Posted on: July 25, 2017 at 13:25:49 CT
Spanky
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Edited by Spanky at 13:25:59 on 07/25/17
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Pickle's OPINION on morality
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 13:04:05
His stance on Natural Rights is exactly the same. He claims
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 13:52:52
Natural rights are inherent to the nature of humans.
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 13:54:40
I still disagree
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 15:01:33
It's not a matter of agreement or disagreement
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pickle
MU
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7/25 15:08:38
How do you know?(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 15:13:29
Logic and reason and behavior
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pickle
MU
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7/25 15:16:38
Has that experiment been done? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 15:02:55
Unless you can prove that statement it is simply opinion.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:02:43
We've been over this before. Natural rights are proven
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 14:06:12
You claim that proof. You have yet to offer it. It is
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:12:33
The proof of natural rights have been posted on this board
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 14:23:35
No, they exist. Some choose to ignore them, but that
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:04:44
interesting that you use the same argument as many believers
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:13:29
Not really. Belief in God requires believing in
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:28:20
or is what you call a violation the actual inherent truth
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:36:26
My natural righra would stop me from
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:47:52
I am saying that there are cases where murder would be in my
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:58:26
If you are Christian and believe murder and theft
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 15:07:33
You mean as people became more enlightened? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 15:01:35
No one is arguing it isnt intellect behind natural
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 15:00:32
Part of pickle's open discussion he welcomes....
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/25 13:15:48
No one has the right to initiate force
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pickle
MU
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7/25 13:21:04
Unless it is a fetus
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Spanky
KU
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7/25 13:25:49
That is up to interpretation. Some believe
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 13:35:51
It shouldn't be.... A human life begins at conception and
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Spanky
KU
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7/25 13:53:10
That is still debateable. A neurologist will say when
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:03:44
Perhaps... but they will then struggle
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Spanky
KU
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7/25 14:10:43
The heart is regulated the brain stem. Brain waves
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:23:16
Human life begins at conception
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Spanky
KU
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7/25 14:32:53
The concept is personhood. Which is very debatable
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:51:21
The concept of personhood is a snivel excuse to allow
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Spanky
KU
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7/25 14:54:41
Do you believe it is murder to end life support
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:58:12
It is not essentially abortion.
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Spanky
KU
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7/25 16:31:16
hey... can you provide a link to Obama apologizing for
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SwampTiger
MU
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7/25 13:19:44
Just showing up at Hiroshima was a terrible act of
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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7/25 14:46:06
Don't dodge. Answer the question and provide a link (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/25 14:48:48
He is right. As a human no one has the right to
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 13:07:50
There is no factual definition of morality
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 13:10:02
Not when it comes to natural rights, which is what
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 13:14:56
so he gets to decide the circumstances
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 13:17:44
You are correct that each person possesses their own
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 13:40:01
Can you please stop with the fallacies?
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pickle
MU
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7/25 13:22:28
Yes you are
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 13:25:24
"he gets to decide the circumstances..." is a straw man
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pickle
MU
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7/25 13:29:12
No, you are declaring an 'objective truth' and then arguing
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:00:17
To be honest
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pickle
MU
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7/25 14:21:12
Yet you claim to want discussion
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 14:48:33
I do desire discussion
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pickle
MU
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7/25 14:51:20
becuase you only want discussion in your light
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meatiger
MU
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7/25 14:59:17
That's not true at all.
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pickle
MU
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7/25 15:17:53
Since you are second only to JG in ignorance on this board I
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:40:28
You won't accept the proof of natural rights because the
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 14:02:30
You were the one who believed the opposite of concrete was
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:08:33
Your use of "concrete" in that thread implied
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 14:17:18
He is conflating scientific proof with the abstract(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:52:48
No, ideas and laws are concrete in the sense that they are
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:27:52
RE: No, ideas and laws are concrete in the sense that they are
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 14:34:34
It wasnt absent. It was ignored by some. Most
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TigerMatt
STL
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7/25 14:12:13
Then please list your 'natural rights' so we can identify
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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7/25 14:18:34
RE: Then please list your 'natural rights' so we can identify
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ummmm
MU
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7/25 14:23:58
There is objective truth and morality (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/25 13:14:21
Yeah, that wasn't opinion (nm)
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pickle
MU
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7/25 13:06:43