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He didn't already do it if I have the option to prevent

Posted on: January 4, 2017 at 13:49:40 CT
90Tiger STL
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it from happening.

that's not how time works.

If i "do it", then he never "does it" and I'm a murderer of a man guilty of nothing in the past, present nor future.

Get it?

Edited by 90Tiger at 13:50:18 on 01/04/17
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