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You are imposing 21st century english usage on a Greek

Posted on: November 1, 2016 at 21:41:00 CT
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text from 2,000 years ago.

Language and usage changes.

Look how differently people in the U.S. talk from one culture to another and that's even when they're in the exact same time.

English usage was different even from when I was a kid until now. Read some English texts from the 1500s and you'll have trouble understanding some of it and the idioms and usage are different.

Translating to and from another language is also tricky. I used to think you could just get a dictionary for each language that gave the identical word in English and you could just substitute words.

I quickly found that that is not even close to a good way to read and understand other texts and it is very easy to write/say things that will be taken in the wrong way in another language, as some companies have found out to their dismay. For instance the Chevy Nova wasn't selling well in Japan (or China?) and they couldn't figure out why until someone told them that "Nova" meant "won't go" in that language.

If you combine the differences in language with differences in cultures and differences in usage over thousands of years it can easily create issues such as you mention here. It may be that "I wouldn't say it that way if I meant "X", but the fact of the matter is that may have been the way they talked back then... in that culture.
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     . - Iam4Mizzou MU - 11/1 18:02:26
     What does this have to do with grabbing pussy?(nm) - TigerMatt MU - 11/1 17:34:20
     And???? - Spanky KU - 11/1 17:33:30
     You misunderstand the meaning of 'until'. - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:31:07
          You misunderstand the meaning of firstborn. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:33:46
               No. The Jews of the time referred to only children as - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:35:29
                    RE: No. The Jews of the time referred to only children as - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:49:51
                         That does not help your case. Genesis was written in Hebrew - JeffB MU - 11/1 18:44:42
                              Well, 300 something isn't the time of Christ, and St. Jerome - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 18:54:27
                                   You keep ignoring the text from 2nd Samuel... - JeffB MU - 11/1 20:58:58
                                        By your reading, the period of until only lasts for as long - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 21:23:28
                                             You are imposing 21st century english usage on a Greek - JeffB MU - 11/1 21:41:00
                                                  You are ignoring the divine nature of the Holy Bible, and - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 22:05:26
     Who ****ing cares? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/1 17:29:09
     Ever hear of James ? Ha ha ha. Jesus cam e from a family(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/1 17:27:31
     Hell will be hot - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:24:11
          Not so fast...... - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/1 19:23:04
          The Roman Catholic version. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:32:19
               That does not support your case: - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:38:05
               says till in the New King James as well, Identical. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:35:30
                    Exactly - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:43:12
                         The Greek word used includes cousins... - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:50:18
                              Son and firstborn are completely different in the Greek. I - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 18:24:07
                              Even so who cares as it doesn't matter in the least - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 18:06:14
                         Chew on this too - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:45:33
               till. (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:33:17
          Of course he had a family - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:32:06




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