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http://www.catholic.com/tracts/brethren-of-the-lord

Consider this line: "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children till the day of her death" (2 Sam. 6:23). Are we to assume she had children after her death?

There is also the burial of Moses. The book of Deuteronomy says that no one knew the location of his grave "until this present day" (Deut. 34:6, Knox). But we know that no one has known since that day either.

The examples could be multiplied, but you get the idea—nothing can be proved from the use of the word "till" in Matthew 1:25. Recent translations give a better sense of the verse: "He had no relations with her at any time before she bore a son" (New American Bible); "He had not known her when she bore a son" (Knox).
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The first male child of a marriage was termed the "first-born" even if he turned out to be the only child of the marriage.
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     . - Iam4Mizzou MU - 11/1 18:02:26
     What does this have to do with grabbing pussy?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/1 17:34:20
     And???? - Spanky KU - 11/1 17:33:30
     You misunderstand the meaning of 'until'. - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:31:07
          You misunderstand the meaning of firstborn. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:33:46
               No. The Jews of the time referred to only children as - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:35:29
                    RE: No. The Jews of the time referred to only children as - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:49:51
                         That does not help your case. Genesis was written in Hebrew - JeffB MU - 11/1 18:44:42
                              Well, 300 something isn't the time of Christ, and St. Jerome - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 18:54:27
                                   You keep ignoring the text from 2nd Samuel... - JeffB MU - 11/1 20:58:58
                                        By your reading, the period of until only lasts for as long - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 21:23:28
                                             You are imposing 21st century english usage on a Greek - JeffB MU - 11/1 21:41:00
                                                  You are ignoring the divine nature of the Holy Bible, and - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 22:05:26
     Who ****ing cares? (nm) - pickle MU - 11/1 17:29:09
     Ever hear of James ? Ha ha ha. Jesus cam e from a family(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 11/1 17:27:31
     Hell will be hot - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:24:11
          Not so fast...... - SparkyStalcup MU - 11/1 19:23:04
          The Roman Catholic version. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:32:19
               That does not support your case: - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:38:05
               says till in the New King James as well, Identical. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 17:35:30
                    Exactly - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:43:12
                         The Greek word used includes cousins... - JeffB MU - 11/1 17:50:18
                              Son and firstborn are completely different in the Greek. I - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/1 18:24:07
                              Even so who cares as it doesn't matter in the least - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 18:06:14
                         Chew on this too - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:45:33
               till. (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:33:17
          Of course he had a family - TigerFan92 MU - 11/1 17:32:06




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