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Are there people who don't think KA can do this job that

Posted on: September 14, 2016 at 11:29:45 CT
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won't admit that the program wasn't in great shape? I think most people who aren't high on Kim acknowledge the reality of the program. I don't think there are many people who don't factor the state of the program in their opinion of Kim. The program was definitely going to be down when Kim took it over but being one of the worst programs in the country should never have happened and that's directly on Kim.

Kim took over a program that was going to be down for a couple of years because of losing some contributors which every program does as players graduate and go pro. He didn't take over a cratered program. He cratered it.
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The pro-Kim and anti-Kim camps are both nuts - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:44:06
     He has had two years, he gets more than that - raskolnikov MU - 9/14 12:21:29
          yeah, 3 is magical (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 12:48:10
               If you have a brain it is, yeah (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/14 14:24:02
     Gone from Mizzou basketball fan to watcing 15 mins a yr - mu7176grad MU - 9/14 11:33:18
     Are there people who don't think KA can do this job that - tgr MU - 9/14 11:29:45
          The program was not in excellent shape, but - sharpwp UNC - 9/14 18:53:07
          Kim took over a YOUNG program & made it even younger by - tigerdb MU - 9/14 12:07:26
               I don't think he actively pushed them away. I think many of - tgr MU - 9/14 12:09:33
                    exactly - and some fans blame the kids for that. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 12:49:23
                    He may not have willfully pushed them away, but actions - tigerdb MU - 9/14 12:26:14
                    there is probably a lot of validity to this(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 9/14 12:10:38
          False, it was cratered. The inherited group was awful - TigerFan92 MU - 9/14 11:52:36
               Hard to say a program coming off a 23 win season was - Evenflow MU - 9/14 12:01:00
                    Give me a break - Mutiger MU - 9/14 13:09:28
                    23 win season wasn't returning. Several losers and role pla - TigerFan92 MU - 9/14 12:22:12
          It was somewhat screwed up, but gave us a golden - Evenflow MU - 9/14 11:30:54
               It's pretty obvious that is what this school is very good at - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:34:20
               Yes. The program had 5 players that were top 100 players - tgr MU - 9/14 11:33:05
                    It doesn't matter if they were top 100 players, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 11:50:21
                         Namon Wright averaged 10 PPG last year and was our leading - tgr MU - 9/14 11:59:19
                              Namon was horrible and got all those minutes because KA knew - Uncle John MU - 9/14 12:58:34
                              How was Gant a solid role player? - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:14:41
                                   5 PPG as a sophomore. He wasn't great but as he added more - tgr MU - 9/14 12:23:33
     exactly... - Bump834 MU - 9/14 11:16:32
     yep.(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 9/14 11:14:09
     I agree for the most part except for the "cratered" program - TheWildcat STL - 9/14 11:04:00
          Did you forget that Clarkson and Brown left early and Jones - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:07:36
               That's not cratered. It's not ideal but it's not cratered. - cefoo MU - 9/14 11:11:32
               Wes Clark was 4 star. J3 was a 4 star. Namon Wright - TheWildcat STL - 9/14 11:09:28
                    How is that on the staff? - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 11:55:07
                         One of the biggest tasks in taking over a new job is player - tgr MU - 9/14 12:04:45
                    You can either play or you can't.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:14:51
                    Clark can't find a home. Gant went down a level. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:11:35
                         J3 was not a 3. Still isn't but that is what he couldn't get - TigerFan92 MU - 9/14 13:19:52
                         I guess MU didn't lose a thing and that's why MU went - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:13:06
                              Again, a failure to acknowledge the full scope of reality - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:16:51
                                   This program was not cratered (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 9/14 13:05:44
                                   So you calling it "cratered" is being gray and complex, my - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:25:04
                                   He's dumb enough(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:24:39
               Hyperbole to call it cratered. Nothing more. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:08:47
     cratered? hyperbole in the truest sense of the word (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:55:43
     RE: The pro-Kim and anti-Kim camps are both nuts - Ray-tiger MU - 9/14 10:52:38
     I'm not anti-Kim. I'm pro-Mizzou and Kim sucks. There isn' - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:51:24
          There isn't a soul here with an inherent,prdisposed bias - Ray-tiger MU - 9/14 11:01:57
               The real world. People want Kim to resign because of what - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:11:06
     I can agree with that. Although when Kim was hired it - sprintcar STL - 9/14 10:49:41
          Kim didn't use a 3-4 year player approach before MU, why did - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:52:08
               Because the powers that got him the job wanted to get back - sprintcar STL - 9/14 10:56:36
                    He's not trying to "get back to 4 year players"...he's taken - tigerdb MU - 9/14 12:30:04
                    so in order to get 3-4 year players MU had to hire a guy wit - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:12:23
                         Theoretically that means we couldn't hire many - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:02:17
                         Of course not. But that's what they did. - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:23:08
                              how many folks? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:25:35
                                   Lol. Its comical how ate up you are. (nm) - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:44:54
                                        what's comical is watching you defend KA but making **** - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 12:50:08
                                             Lol. Yeah OK whatever you say. (nm) - sprintcar STL - 9/14 13:10:23
                    Why was hiring a D2 coach necessary to not recruit - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:04:16
                         No one said it was. I don't think anyone is against taking - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:17:50
                         MU has always been more embarrassed by NCAA infractions - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:06:01
                              What's funny is that Ben Howland has never had any NCAA - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:16:45
                                   Howland is not squeaky clean like you make him out to be, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:05:36
                                        He can cheat at Mississippi State, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:06:47
                                   But he had plenty of stink on him from UCLA - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:19:38
                                        lol, they did that (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:35:21
                                        Well they accomplished that. (nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:20:42
     What's your definition of a cratered program? - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:49:07
          What's your definition of a circular argument - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:57:03
               So you can't answer it? I don't think the program was - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:58:37
                    No it's not(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:23:41
                    It's not that, it's that I don't give a f*ck - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:04:14
     Spot on - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 10:46:15
          Agreed. This feels a lot like the presidential election - GoMizzouTigers MU - 9/14 10:49:00




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