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So you can't answer it? I don't think the program was

Posted on: September 14, 2016 at 10:58:37 CT
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necessarily cratered when Kim took it over. It wasn't in the greatest shape but it wasn't cratered. It's cratered now for the next coach.
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The pro-Kim and anti-Kim camps are both nuts - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:44:06
     He has had two years, he gets more than that - raskolnikov MU - 9/14 12:21:29
          yeah, 3 is magical (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 12:48:10
               If you have a brain it is, yeah (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 9/14 14:24:02
     Gone from Mizzou basketball fan to watcing 15 mins a yr - mu7176grad MU - 9/14 11:33:18
     Are there people who don't think KA can do this job that - tgr MU - 9/14 11:29:45
          The program was not in excellent shape, but - sharpwp UNC - 9/14 18:53:07
          Kim took over a YOUNG program & made it even younger by - tigerdb MU - 9/14 12:07:26
               I don't think he actively pushed them away. I think many of - tgr MU - 9/14 12:09:33
                    exactly - and some fans blame the kids for that. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 12:49:23
                    He may not have willfully pushed them away, but actions - tigerdb MU - 9/14 12:26:14
                    there is probably a lot of validity to this(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 9/14 12:10:38
          False, it was cratered. The inherited group was awful - TigerFan92 MU - 9/14 11:52:36
               Hard to say a program coming off a 23 win season was - Evenflow MU - 9/14 12:01:00
                    Give me a break - Mutiger MU - 9/14 13:09:28
                    23 win season wasn't returning. Several losers and role pla - TigerFan92 MU - 9/14 12:22:12
          It was somewhat screwed up, but gave us a golden - Evenflow MU - 9/14 11:30:54
               It's pretty obvious that is what this school is very good at - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:34:20
               Yes. The program had 5 players that were top 100 players - tgr MU - 9/14 11:33:05
                    It doesn't matter if they were top 100 players, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 11:50:21
                         Namon Wright averaged 10 PPG last year and was our leading - tgr MU - 9/14 11:59:19
                              Namon was horrible and got all those minutes because KA knew - Uncle John MU - 9/14 12:58:34
                              How was Gant a solid role player? - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:14:41
                                   5 PPG as a sophomore. He wasn't great but as he added more - tgr MU - 9/14 12:23:33
     exactly... - Bump834 MU - 9/14 11:16:32
     yep.(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 9/14 11:14:09
     I agree for the most part except for the "cratered" program - TheWildcat STL - 9/14 11:04:00
          Did you forget that Clarkson and Brown left early and Jones - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:07:36
               That's not cratered. It's not ideal but it's not cratered. - cefoo MU - 9/14 11:11:32
               Wes Clark was 4 star. J3 was a 4 star. Namon Wright - TheWildcat STL - 9/14 11:09:28
                    How is that on the staff? - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 11:55:07
                         One of the biggest tasks in taking over a new job is player - tgr MU - 9/14 12:04:45
                    You can either play or you can't.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:14:51
                    Clark can't find a home. Gant went down a level. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:11:35
                         J3 was not a 3. Still isn't but that is what he couldn't get - TigerFan92 MU - 9/14 13:19:52
                         I guess MU didn't lose a thing and that's why MU went - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:13:06
                              Again, a failure to acknowledge the full scope of reality - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:16:51
                                   This program was not cratered (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 9/14 13:05:44
                                   So you calling it "cratered" is being gray and complex, my - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:25:04
                                   He's dumb enough(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:24:39
               Hyperbole to call it cratered. Nothing more. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:08:47
     cratered? hyperbole in the truest sense of the word (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:55:43
     RE: The pro-Kim and anti-Kim camps are both nuts - Ray-tiger MU - 9/14 10:52:38
     I'm not anti-Kim. I'm pro-Mizzou and Kim sucks. There isn' - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:51:24
          There isn't a soul here with an inherent,prdisposed bias - Ray-tiger MU - 9/14 11:01:57
               The real world. People want Kim to resign because of what - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:11:06
     I can agree with that. Although when Kim was hired it - sprintcar STL - 9/14 10:49:41
          Kim didn't use a 3-4 year player approach before MU, why did - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:52:08
               Because the powers that got him the job wanted to get back - sprintcar STL - 9/14 10:56:36
                    He's not trying to "get back to 4 year players"...he's taken - tigerdb MU - 9/14 12:30:04
                    so in order to get 3-4 year players MU had to hire a guy wit - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:12:23
                         Theoretically that means we couldn't hire many - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:02:17
                         Of course not. But that's what they did. - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:23:08
                              how many folks? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:25:35
                                   Lol. Its comical how ate up you are. (nm) - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:44:54
                                        what's comical is watching you defend KA but making **** - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 12:50:08
                                             Lol. Yeah OK whatever you say. (nm) - sprintcar STL - 9/14 13:10:23
                    Why was hiring a D2 coach necessary to not recruit - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:04:16
                         No one said it was. I don't think anyone is against taking - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:17:50
                         MU has always been more embarrassed by NCAA infractions - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:06:01
                              What's funny is that Ben Howland has never had any NCAA - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:16:45
                                   Howland is not squeaky clean like you make him out to be, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:05:36
                                        He can cheat at Mississippi State, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 12:06:47
                                   But he had plenty of stink on him from UCLA - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:19:38
                                        lol, they did that (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 11:35:21
                                        Well they accomplished that. (nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:20:42
     What's your definition of a cratered program? - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:49:07
          What's your definition of a circular argument - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:57:03
               So you can't answer it? I don't think the program was - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:58:37
                    No it's not(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:23:41
                    It's not that, it's that I don't give a f*ck - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 11:04:14
     Spot on - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 10:46:15
          Agreed. This feels a lot like the presidential election - GoMizzouTigers MU - 9/14 10:49:00




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