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there is no evidence jesus existed
Posted on: January 10, 2025 at 09:23:53 CT
pickle
MU
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religion is all bull****
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For alleged Christians
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 08:18:49
You agree with something Carter said? Thanks for sharing(nm)
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Outsider
MU
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1/10 10:21:48
RE: For alleged Christians
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 09:45:16
Cherry picking verses out of context.(nm)
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:01:46
Be honest with yourself Matt....do you think Jesus would
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Logan
STL
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1/10 10:29:16
Yes. I’m not interested in theological baggage that ignores
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:03:27
So you think he would defend what you're saying or
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Logan
STL
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1/10 11:26:16
I’m saying the standard arguments used by many
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 12:14:06
I disagree about a weak foundation but our business
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Logan
STL
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1/10 12:41:21
I have problems saying homosexuality is outright condemned
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 13:04:11
RE: Yes. I’m not interested in theological baggage that ignores
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 11:08:48
yup, it's kinda like saying Sodom was destroyed for
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:08:32
RE: yup, it's kinda like saying Sodom was destroyed for
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 10:22:48
Judges 19. It wasn’t about homosexuality. The same
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:11:15
RE: Judges 19. It wasn’t about homosexuality. The same
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 10:43:52
The story of Sodom is in Genesis
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:21:52
Good lord you are dense.(nm)
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:24:05
The topic of Sodom is not in Judges
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:29:13
It’s the exact same story.(nm)
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:31:44
Lot offered to allow the men to rape his daughters
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:33:49
the teaching point is that God's wrath is poured out against
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:47:12
Was it ungodly for Lot to then impregnate both his daughters
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:49:24
yes it was.
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:55:22
Where does Genesis describe the act as ungodly?(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:57:37
It doesn’t. So get drunk and bang your daughter then tell
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:07:09
The topic is what the Bible says... not what the laws of
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:19:06
The problem is you aren’t going by what the Bible says. You
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:20:16
YOU are the one not going by what the Bible says
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:22:53
Dude. Genesis 18, God has already cast judgment on Sodom.
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:29:49
What was the "grievous sin" in Genesis 18?
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:55:17
You are a functional illiterate. Genesis 18 doesn’t say. So
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:59:05
what was the "grievous sin" in Genesis 18?(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 12:22:53
The text doesn’t say. It also doesn’t say there was just
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 12:39:49
Genesis 19 says homosexuality and yes... it says "sin"
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 12:44:20
So was a “sin offering” on the Day of Atonement just
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 12:57:59
context.. Genesis said "grievous sin" .... not "sins"
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 13:28:08
they also said they were sent to destroy it - well before
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:34:25
are you arguing that incest is ok b/c of silence in
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:05:59
are you arguing that homosexuality is ok because Genesis
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:13:32
No. You are dense. I am saying the destruction of Sodom was
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:17:40
And yet Genesis 19 uses homsexuality as the reason
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:20:03
it does not. It was full of sin and wickedness.
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:33:21
No. It doesn’t. You are ripping it out of context. (nm)
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:21:02
Nope.. that's your heathen schtick
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:23:54
no.
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:16:02
Of course. The Biblical texts don’t portray God as
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:55:06
But God destroyed the inhabitants of Sodom
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:59:42
No. He passed judgment on them already. Read Genesis 18
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:00:58
False! Genesis 18: 20-21
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 12:47:51
Man you really struggle with reading comprehension. Do you
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 13:34:48
What words in Genesis 18: 20-21 confused you?
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 13:59:33
Follow the story, not your flawed interpretation.
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 14:40:11
God says he is going to Sodom to see REASON for the outcry.
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 15:02:07
Lot’s daughters were engaged. They belonged to other men.
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:40:17
and yet Sodom would not have been destroyed had the
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:48:04
The text never says that. These events are after Abraham
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:57:07
The text never says that Lot was punished for impregnating
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:58:52
was Laban punished for lying to Jacob?
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:12:02
So? Lot disappears from the story. It says nothing period
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:02:14
The story of Sodom is about homosexuality.. not rape
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:21:40
so it was ok if they raped his daughters?(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:34:49
it appears that would have spared Sodom from destruction
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 13:56:39
that's not true.
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:56:34
Which is why the text doesn’t support those who claim Sodom
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:00:11
it says they were evil and wicked. The only sins mentioned
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:07:56
Right. But some want to fill in the blanks with a big gay
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:26:33
Yes. Rape is bad. Thanks for confirming(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:12:59
Raping a woman that belongs to another man. If she’s
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:19:07
do you think that's a good rule for Christians today?(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:19:43
Of course not. But Biblical marriages aren’t good for anyone
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:23:24
what do you mean by "biblical marriage"?
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:26:06
Yes. Jewish marriage. But Jewish marriage wasn’t unique to
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:31:21
When I talk about Biblical marriage, I'm speaking of
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:42:46
That still is theological baggage. Paul was using human
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:50:48
bingo(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 11:12:28
nope
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FootballRefugee
MU
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1/10 10:05:08
Yep. Using Matthew was particularly stupid.(nm)
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:07:17
While Matthew 19 was on the topic of divorce, it was clear
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 11:25:30
The Matthew verse was out of context but to deny
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:12:18
That is reading way too much into it. You aren’t a
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:17:16
I didn't say it was literal. Marriage is the sign of the
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:19:15
Yet Paul counseled single followers of Christ to not marry.
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:21:32
it is related - b/c it was the sign.
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:28:35
That’s still a stretch considering having multiple wives was
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:43:09
yes it's christ and his bride. I'm not catholic(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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1/10 10:48:00
you're revealing a lot here
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FootballRefugee
MU
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1/10 10:08:27
Not out of context(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:03:48
Very much so. But it’s all about dogma for you.(nm)
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:05:26
What is the context of 1 Corinthians 6:9 that is missing?
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:27:25
Paul was using an argument of nature. Homosexual sex
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:55:32
No... Paul was making an argument about homosexuality(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 15:05:33
ironic
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FootballRefugee
MU
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1/10 10:05:53
Yeah, Prophet Jimmy Carter
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AWOLTiger
KC
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1/10 09:28:25
Yeah, False Prophet Jimmy Carter.............nm
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tigertix
MU
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1/10 09:53:08
"Go and sin no more" upholding the truth of marriage between
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/10 09:17:34
marriage is between or among whomever (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/10 09:25:06
Not in the Bible(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 09:51:03
i’m talking reality not mythology (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/10 10:11:22
But the thread is about religion.
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GODZILLA
MU
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1/10 10:12:57
i can’t account for your stupidity (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/10 10:27:46
I know pickle. It is always everyone else except you
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GODZILLA
MU
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1/10 10:38:24
not always
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pickle
MU
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1/10 11:06:32
Of course not. The Bible is limited by context and time. Gay
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:59:50
Matthew 19:4-5
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:03:15
Keep showing how ignorant you are. The Bible also says
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:05:01
and multiple wives is not against the laws of God
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 10:43:21
This is why the Bible cannot be used as a book of
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 11:38:11
and then Jesus came to earth and the message of
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 14:34:01
You’re dipping into Gnosticism now. The message never
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 14:42:20
The message changed from a vengeful God to a forgiving
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Spanky
KU
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1/10 15:43:27
OK--so you are gay
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mu7176grad
MU
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1/10 09:04:36
This denies the concept of the Trinity
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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1/10 09:03:13
RE: This denies the concept of the Trinity
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 09:18:46
RE: This denies the concept of the Trinity
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War Horse
MU
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1/10 09:39:49
all scripture is written by humans thoursands of years ago
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Seagull
MU
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1/10 09:43:24
“God-breathed” or theopneustos was a term used to describe
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:58:29
Anyone suprised Ras has thoughts about homosexuality?
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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1/10 08:59:07
Explains why those white supremacists were going after him..
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BandG
MU
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1/10 09:17:26
Holding up a noose and screaming "this is MAGA country". (nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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1/10 09:51:18
So you are using Tigerboard to come out? Congrats. Nm
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BandG
MU
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1/10 08:55:45
someone else telling you what to think (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/10 08:51:13
It’s all spelled out in the movie Chinatown
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Bulldog Bob Brown
STL
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1/10 08:58:26
RE: For alleged Christians
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 08:47:00
You seem to paint homosexuality there as a sin
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 08:52:23
RE: You seem to paint homosexuality there as a sin
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 10:08:36
So you reject Jesus as your savior correct?
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Logan
STL
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1/10 09:02:17
there is no evidence jesus existed
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pickle
MU
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1/10 09:23:53
I choose not to believe you. Like in most things. (nm)
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Logan
STL
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1/10 10:02:36
i know. you’re an emotional baby
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pickle
MU
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1/10 10:12:09
Lol...no emotion here but you do you. (nm)
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Logan
STL
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1/10 10:15:08
no, that was a purely emotional reaction
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pickle
MU
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1/10 10:27:08
No.(nm)
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Logan
STL
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1/10 10:30:30
yes (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/10 11:06:02
Are you suggesting that homosexuals can
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GODZILLA
MU
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1/10 08:56:40
Yes. Homosexuals have been having children since humanity
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 08:58:32
A man who is a homosexual, screws a woman, creates a baby
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 08:58:20
RE: For alleged Christians
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hangman
MU
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1/10 08:40:30
Carter was a liberal democrat politician and his statements
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BH O'bonga
MU
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1/10 08:30:31
Carter was a Sunday School teacher for more that 70 years
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 08:57:13
RE: Carter was a liberal democrat politician and his statements
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 08:35:35
RE: Carter, You really shouldn't comment:
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BH O'bonga
MU
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1/10 08:43:30
ROFLMFAO. Guy was a peanut farmer from the deep south
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 09:01:02
RE: peanut farmer: So you read the thumbnail sketch put
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BH O'bonga
MU
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1/10 09:31:19
Its a message board.
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GODZILLA
MU
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1/10 08:41:34
Carter had “imagine” sung at his funeral
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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1/10 08:31:31
Not a close-minded one, that is for sure
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 09:02:32
That was unbelievable
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El Zorro
MU
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1/10 08:33:19
Based on YOUR interpretation of Heaven, so what
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 09:03:22
by two liberal country singers
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Bosalphus
KC
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1/10 08:33:17
RE: Carter had “imagine” sung at his funeral: Power corrupts
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BH O'bonga
MU
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1/10 08:32:21
I wouldn't depend on Carter for my salvation...
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Logan
STL
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1/10 08:29:28
Two comments in the Torah? Jesus's followers claimed,
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 09:05:59
No. There were actually disputes in Acts and in Paul’s
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:25:04
you are ignorant
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FootballRefugee
MU
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1/10 09:20:16
Matthew 5, Jesus is speaking to a Jewish audience. Pay
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:27:06
no $hit
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FootballRefugee
MU
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1/10 09:32:06
There is no separation of civil and moral law. That is a
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:33:22
I can agree they are both
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FootballRefugee
MU
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1/10 10:01:37
Yet nothing on two women in the Mosaic Law. It skips
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 08:32:15
Not everything that was said was written down...
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Logan
STL
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1/10 08:37:48
None of it was written down for nearly 50 years and there
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raskolnikov
MU
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1/10 09:08:01
Yet what has been written has lasted through the ages...
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Logan
STL
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1/10 09:24:12
Most Biblical scholars wouldn’t say God had a hand in
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:28:16
Well...there you go. Biblical scholars are not infallible. (nm)
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Logan
STL
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1/10 10:01:21
Nor are theologians who take baggage created by other
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 10:03:09
I choose to believe what I read in the bible...
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Logan
STL
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1/10 10:06:24
RE: Not everything that was said was written down...
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BH O'bonga
MU
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1/10 08:45:42
Jesus wouldn’t have went against the Mosaic Law. But two
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 08:42:01
So are you saying he would be okay with it?
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Logan
STL
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1/10 08:44:53
It wasn’t even considered sex. The concept of sex required
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 08:55:11
That didn't answer my question. (nm)
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Logan
STL
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1/10 09:03:47
It wasn’t against the Mosaic Law. There is no reason
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 09:19:06
My question now is what do you think Jesus
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Logan
STL
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1/10 09:38:17
RE: My question now is what do you think Jesus
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 14:38:30
No, it wasn’t. The concept of homosexuality is actually
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 08:25:23
RE: No, it wasn’t. The concept of homosexuality is actually
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 15:17:44
RE: No, it wasn’t. The concept of homosexuality is actually
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sarasotatiger
MU
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1/10 08:34:50
Those were early trannies who often cut off their balls and
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TigerMatt
KC
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1/10 08:40:32
nobody cares that you're a gay man
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Seagull
MU
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1/10 08:23:36
I’m sure you often think about it
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El-ahrairah
BAMA
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1/10 08:23:28
As well as in Romans in the New Testament
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El Zorro
MU
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1/10 08:32:37