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The second amendment doesn’t apply to the states (nm)
Posted on: June 13, 2024 at 15:15:11 CT
pickle
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What SCOTUS Justices are supposed to do
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:08:15
False. That is not a constitutional role of SCOTUS
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:10:32
Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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6/13 11:36:38
Federalist No. 78 says that the federal courts have the
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 10:27:53
That is great. But it isn’t in the Constitution. (nm)
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 12:11:10
That was not pickle's contention earlier
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 12:13:14
It is not.
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 12:21:22
He said to look at Federalist to understand what the Framers
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 12:30:53
Yes.. of things actually in the constitution. If it is not
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 12:33:45
Read the thread where pickle made the Federalist comment
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 13:08:00
no i didn’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 13:19:30
Yep.. you did
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 13:30:38
“about something he said was not in the Constitution.”
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pickle
MU
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6/13 13:44:12
What clause is that in the Constitution?(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 14:19:19
The federal government was created by the states. It did not
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 14:44:38
It was created by the People.... "We the People"
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 17:01:43
What clause?
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 14:59:00
Yes. The federal government is a creation of the states. (nm)
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 13:37:57
The constitution is a compact between the PEOPLE and the
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 16:31:11
oh dear (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:44:14
oh dear! Now you don't like the Federalist Papers?
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 10:56:19
Who, then, should interpret? (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 10:14:35
states, citizens - MvM was a power grab/shift for federal
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:42:37
Natural law. Duh. It's not polite to ask the idiot
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hokie
VT
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6/13 10:21:36
There is a contingent here who claim a law has not been
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:26:28
lol, you have severe comprehension issues if you think
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:43:02
When people have been charged with a crime
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 11:53:43
that pickle is arguing that crime should be defined as
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:58:19
Whoops.
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 12:12:55
People don't say it shouldn't be a crime
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 12:01:05
it's awesome when you don't read, understand, or
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 12:49:59
you are equating and switching crime with law
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pickle
MU
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6/13 12:06:03
a crime was not committed =/= a law wasn’t broken
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pickle
MU
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6/13 11:57:04
and has arrogance blocking his ability to even try to
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:58:53
yep.
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pickle
MU
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6/13 12:06:44
I both understand what people are trying to say
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 12:02:14
i can assure you, you don't (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 12:38:36
another lie (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 12:07:00
The Idiot and his elves are sovereign citizens. They can
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hokie
VT
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6/13 11:00:37
Everyone chooses which laws they obey and which laws they
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 12:27:03
One is best left ignored
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 11:02:40
no one has ever claimed that (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:29:13
How is that any different than discretion?(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 10:28:11
Because law enforcement is granted that discretion
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:33:06
so only law enforcement?
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 10:41:15
oops, read below
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 10:42:27
By whom?(nm)
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 10:34:46
Those selected rightfully to oversee the system
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:37:50
So you have cops down in Wayne County, MO that
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 10:43:08
I have always referenced rightful discretion
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:50:01
Who determines rightful discretion?(nm)
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 12:23:43
your eyes are brown (where the white should be) (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:43:43
"rightful discretion"
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 10:51:54
he is
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:55:51
No, I am not
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:55:40
It is full of bias
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 10:58:12
Correct
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 10:59:52
and that law can be used against you
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 11:03:00
I am not in favor of jaywalking laws
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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6/13 11:04:16
lol(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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6/13 11:07:33
lol, DH (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:42:49
lol
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:29:54
the states and the people
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:18:29
50 different interpretations?
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 10:37:14
yes (gasp!) god forbid states being different in a Republic
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:44:58
Federal Government can’t infringe upon those rights.
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 14:04:23
sure (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:43:10
Your Constitutional rights change
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 11:02:36
gvmt doesn't grant rights (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:45:34
What does the Constitution provide? (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 11:51:29
the BoR states that there are certain inherent rights of
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 12:40:48
Got it. Thanks.
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 16:05:17
Supposedly limitations to federal government (nm)
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TigerMatt
MISS
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6/13 12:24:34
And those limitations should be different
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 12:38:06
haeff, the US constitution defines a limited list of federal
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 12:44:23
I’m trying to wrap my head around the concept
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 14:00:43
Why “interpret”? It’s a pretty clear document
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pickle
MU
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6/13 14:13:45
Because you and I may disagree
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 14:20:57
The second amendment doesn’t apply to the states (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 15:15:11
Thanks. That’s a perfect example
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 15:37:13
it’s not
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pickle
MU
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6/13 16:13:55
I didn’t say they were.
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 16:31:57
the limitations of the BoR restrict the federal government -
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 12:41:38
Straw man
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pickle
MU
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6/13 12:41:15
I’m trying to understand your point of view
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haeffb
MU
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6/13 13:49:55
it is "supposed to" protect us from infringements by
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 15:13:51
what? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 11:24:46
The Supremacy Clause trumps state nullification(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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6/13 10:25:52
maybe in the Crapland we've devolved to, but not
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90Tiger
STL
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6/13 11:46:01
it does not (nm)
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pickle
MU
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6/13 10:29:41