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states, citizens - MvM was a power grab/shift for federal

Posted on: June 13, 2024 at 11:42:37 CT
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gvmt. A big one in our crappy devolution away from a Republic built on sovereign and powerful states that could (GASP!) be different and do things people in other states don't like.
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What SCOTUS Justices are supposed to do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:08:15
     False. That is not a constitutional role of SCOTUS - pickle MU - 6/13 10:10:32
          Controversies to which the United States shall be a Party - tigerinhogtown STL - 6/13 11:36:38
          Federalist No. 78 says that the federal courts have the - Spanky KU - 6/13 10:27:53
               That is great. But it isn’t in the Constitution. (nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 12:11:10
                    That was not pickle's contention earlier - Spanky KU - 6/13 12:13:14
                         It is not. - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 12:21:22
                              He said to look at Federalist to understand what the Framers - Spanky KU - 6/13 12:30:53
                                   Yes.. of things actually in the constitution. If it is not - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 12:33:45
                                        Read the thread where pickle made the Federalist comment - Spanky KU - 6/13 13:08:00
                                             no i didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 13:19:30
                                                  Yep.. you did - Spanky KU - 6/13 13:30:38
                                                       “about something he said was not in the Constitution.” - pickle MU - 6/13 13:44:12
                                                            What clause is that in the Constitution?(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/13 14:19:19
                                                                 The federal government was created by the states. It did not - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 14:44:38
                                                                      It was created by the People.... "We the People" - Spanky KU - 6/13 17:01:43
                                                                      What clause? - Spanky KU - 6/13 14:59:00
                                                       Yes. The federal government is a creation of the states. (nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 13:37:57
                                                            The constitution is a compact between the PEOPLE and the - Spanky KU - 6/13 16:31:11
               oh dear (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 10:44:14
                    oh dear! Now you don't like the Federalist Papers? - Spanky KU - 6/13 10:56:19
          Who, then, should interpret? (nm) - haeffb MU - 6/13 10:14:35
               states, citizens - MvM was a power grab/shift for federal - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:42:37
               Natural law. Duh. It's not polite to ask the idiot - hokie VT - 6/13 10:21:36
                    There is a contingent here who claim a law has not been - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:26:28
                         lol, you have severe comprehension issues if you think - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:43:02
                              When people have been charged with a crime - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 11:53:43
                                   that pickle is arguing that crime should be defined as - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:58:19
                                        Whoops. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 12:12:55
                                        People don't say it shouldn't be a crime - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 12:01:05
                                             it's awesome when you don't read, understand, or - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 12:49:59
                                             you are equating and switching crime with law - pickle MU - 6/13 12:06:03
                                   a crime was not committed =/= a law wasn’t broken - pickle MU - 6/13 11:57:04
                                        and has arrogance blocking his ability to even try to - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:58:53
                                             yep. - pickle MU - 6/13 12:06:44
                                             I both understand what people are trying to say - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 12:02:14
                                                  i can assure you, you don't (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 12:38:36
                                                  another lie (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 12:07:00
                         The Idiot and his elves are sovereign citizens. They can - hokie VT - 6/13 11:00:37
                              Everyone chooses which laws they obey and which laws they - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 12:27:03
                              One is best left ignored - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 11:02:40
                         no one has ever claimed that (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 10:29:13
                         How is that any different than discretion?(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/13 10:28:11
                              Because law enforcement is granted that discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:33:06
                                   so only law enforcement? - meatiger MU - 6/13 10:41:15
                                        oops, read below - meatiger MU - 6/13 10:42:27
                                   By whom?(nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 10:34:46
                                        Those selected rightfully to oversee the system - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:37:50
                                             So you have cops down in Wayne County, MO that - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 10:43:08
                                                  I have always referenced rightful discretion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:50:01
                                                       Who determines rightful discretion?(nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 12:23:43
                                                       your eyes are brown (where the white should be) (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:43:43
                                                       "rightful discretion" - meatiger MU - 6/13 10:51:54
                                                            he is - pickle MU - 6/13 10:55:51
                                                            No, I am not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:55:40
                                                                 It is full of bias - meatiger MU - 6/13 10:58:12
                                                                      Correct - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 10:59:52
                                                                           and that law can be used against you - meatiger MU - 6/13 11:03:00
                                                                                I am not in favor of jaywalking laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 6/13 11:04:16
                                                                                     lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 6/13 11:07:33
                                             lol, DH (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 10:42:49
                              lol - pickle MU - 6/13 10:29:54
               the states and the people - pickle MU - 6/13 10:18:29
                    50 different interpretations? - haeffb MU - 6/13 10:37:14
                         yes (gasp!) god forbid states being different in a Republic - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:44:58
                              Federal Government can’t infringe upon those rights. - haeffb MU - 6/13 14:04:23
                         sure (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 10:43:10
                              Your Constitutional rights change - haeffb MU - 6/13 11:02:36
                                   gvmt doesn't grant rights (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:45:34
                                        What does the Constitution provide? (nm) - haeffb MU - 6/13 11:51:29
                                             the BoR states that there are certain inherent rights of - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 12:40:48
                                                  Got it. Thanks. - haeffb MU - 6/13 16:05:17
                                             Supposedly limitations to federal government (nm) - TigerMatt MISS - 6/13 12:24:34
                                                  And those limitations should be different - haeffb MU - 6/13 12:38:06
                                                       haeff, the US constitution defines a limited list of federal - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 12:44:23
                                                            I’m trying to wrap my head around the concept - haeffb MU - 6/13 14:00:43
                                                                 Why “interpret”? It’s a pretty clear document - pickle MU - 6/13 14:13:45
                                                                      Because you and I may disagree - haeffb MU - 6/13 14:20:57
                                                                           The second amendment doesn’t apply to the states (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 15:15:11
                                                                                Thanks. That’s a perfect example - haeffb MU - 6/13 15:37:13
                                                                                     it’s not - pickle MU - 6/13 16:13:55
                                                                                          I didn’t say they were. - haeffb MU - 6/13 16:31:57
                                                       the limitations of the BoR restrict the federal government - - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 12:41:38
                                                       Straw man - pickle MU - 6/13 12:41:15
                                                            I’m trying to understand your point of view - haeffb MU - 6/13 13:49:55
                                                                 it is "supposed to" protect us from infringements by - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 15:13:51
                                   what? (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 11:24:46
                    The Supremacy Clause trumps state nullification(nm) - Spanky KU - 6/13 10:25:52
                         maybe in the Crapland we've devolved to, but not - 90Tiger STL - 6/13 11:46:01
                         it does not (nm) - pickle MU - 6/13 10:29:41




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