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My original post had nothing to do with refining

Posted on: December 12, 2023 at 11:38:09 CT

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But even on that aspect you are wrong. All of Biden's rhetoric aside, refiners are perfectly happy with the refining situation in the US. They don't want to invest huge capital to increase capacity and build new refineries because their margins would drop significantly.

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Were energy fears under Biden entirely warranted? - KC rules MU - 12/11 17:46:24

I don't see that as a particularly good thing. - GA Tiger MU - 12/11 21:17:13

"we" do buy other oil while it's cheap - ashtray UF - 12/12 07:34:37

yes, you're the only person who understands that oil is a fi - 90Tiger STL - 12/12 07:01:06

yes, they are warranted - pickle MU

- 12/11 20:19:31

He certainly drove a nail in the EV coffin.(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 12/11 20:18:37

I started out doing oil and gas as a lawyer - mu7176grad MU - 12/11 20:00:57

You mean high prices attracts production - meatiger MU - 12/11 18:59:12

Indeed. That was part of my point - KC rules MU - 12/11 19:02:26

Too bad you are against so - meatiger MU - 12/11 19:12:34

Such as? - KC rules MU - 12/11 19:14:17

Yes. There is a long lead time in bringing - tman MU - 12/11 18:45:10

RE: Yes. There is a long lead time in bringing - KC rules MU - 12/11 18:55:52

Takes 4 to 10 years from lease to production - tman MU - 12/11 21:31:28

Depends on the lease - KC rules MU - 12/11 21:34:52

And the increases in production in existing fields - tman MU - 12/11 21:40:40

Biden telegraphed policy changes that discouraged investment - Spanky KU - 12/11 19:00:52

RE: Biden telegraphed policy changes that discouraged investment - KC rules MU - 12/11 19:10:55

so biden didn't have an energy policy, didn't communicate it - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 19:33:21

My reference was only to oil and natural gas - KC rules MU - 12/11 19:43:26

My reason for asking is he sure campaigned on it and - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 19:47:06

RE: My reason for asking is he sure campaigned on it and - KC rules MU - 12/11 19:51:14

doesn't this stuff just make you laugh? - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 20:09:59

I think it's absurd to attack climate change - even if every - KC rules MU - 12/11 20:37:55

pragmatic - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 20:08:44

RE: pragmatic - KC rules MU - 12/11 21:08:58

I'm not arguing his policies' impact on oil supply (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/12 06:19:53

RE: My reason for asking is he sure campaigned on it and - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 20:07:27

I think he's probably finding the ability to do that is not - KC rules MU - 12/11 20:13:04

I think he's a blithering idiot who suffers from cognitive d - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 20:15:06

not really relevant to my point. This isn't Biden being - 90Tiger STL - 12/11 20:06:43

100% relevant - Spanky KU - 12/11 19:27:49

There's nothing true about that statement at all - KC rules MU - 12/11 20:07:17

Spanky talks out of his a$$ and then digs his heels in - ashtray UF - 12/12 07:39:48

I bring facts to the table - Spanky KU - 12/12 09:53:05

lol. ok, stunad (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/12 11:18:22

Refineries didn’t ramp back up until Robinette backed off - Spanky KU - 12/12 00:46:01

My original post had nothing to do with refining - KC rules MU - 12/12 11:38:09

Sometimes it’s a good idea to stay with your predecessors - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/11 19:38:19

90%of the oil growth - meatiger MU - 12/11 19:32:57

Maybe not growth but the shale oil boom did indeed start - KC rules MU - 12/11 19:59:51

This is how it works . It is a boom-bust industry, and the - pinkman MU - 12/11 21:56:38

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