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question for umm and DT - meatiger MU - 10/18 13:30:42

     These are tough questions and there are no good answers. - ummmm MU - 10/18 14:48:30

          thanks for the conversations - meatiger MU - 10/18 15:12:01

          putting aside positivist lawmaking for a second, from a - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:53:54

               no, but the forcing of a woman to carry it to term is - ashtray UF - 10/18 14:57:00

                    nobody is forcing her. I would just kindly ask her to not - dangertim MU - 10/18 15:12:21

                         if she's forced to carry the fetus to term - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:20:11

                              well, Then I guess motherhood is slavery as well, according - dangertim MU - 10/18 15:34:32

                                   only if she is compelled to do so (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 15:48:48

                                   no, motherhood is a choice - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:36:13

                                        she can also leave it upon an ash heap, according to Roman - dangertim MU - 10/18 15:38:07

                                             I disagree - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:39:40

                                                  In unicorn land, sure. But we don't live in an ideal - dangertim MU - 10/18 15:49:36

                                                       no, it's in reality land - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:53:39

                                                            Yes it does fail, the voluntary relationship - dangertim MU - 10/18 16:26:40

               Yes. (nm) - ummmm MU - 10/18 14:55:05

                    I agree - I think any discussion beyond that is difficult - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:56:08

     It is actually DG, not DT.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/18 14:09:04

          cnk says it's DE - SwampTiger MU - 10/18 14:26:20

               Dang Ertim - cnk ATL - 10/18 14:33:14

                    I actually do have some Penn Dutch in my line by way - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:35:57

                         I'm an extremely good guesser(nm) - cnk ATL - 10/18 14:37:36

                              guess what's in my pocket(nm) - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:38:53

                                   a safety pin, 3 nickels, and a broken button(nm) - cnk ATL - 10/18 14:43:21

                                        lol, idiot - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:50:15

               That's because cnk is permanently high at this point.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/18 14:28:10

                    only sometimes(nm) - cnk ATL - 10/18 14:34:20

          Thank you. I assumed it was a pet name like ass tray - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:22:19

               I have seen you referred to as DT many times on here(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:24:59

                    it's because they don't love me(nm) - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:27:02

                         sorry...thought the DT - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:27:52

                              Danger Tim? What kind of homosexual would come up with - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:31:20

                                   I always pictured you as some sort of bravado guy - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:33:23

                                        Mr Gertim to you.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/18 15:59:09

                              Dan Gertim.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/18 14:28:44

                                   I apologize DG(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:29:29

     Donald Trump?(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/18 13:57:08

          You guys see this? We got these MOTHERS trying to - dangertim MU - 10/18 13:59:23

               lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/18 14:05:39

     It's from some point at the pregnancy - I'm not going to - dangertim MU - 10/18 13:55:14

          Here is where I challenge people morally - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:17:45

               You have no right to compel another (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 14:22:42

               You pretend you give absolutes - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:20:59

                    Where did I disagree with him? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:22:15

                         I did not say you disagreed with DT - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:23:46

                              How did I misrepresent you on this issue? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:25:02

                                   I have never said I supported abortion - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:26:09

                                        I have said you believe the mother has a right - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:27:34

                                             RE: I have said you believe the mother has a right - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:28:53

                                                  The mother should kill it and just move on - she is only - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:34:46

                                                       That is not my position at all(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/18 15:04:11

          fair points - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:08:34

               I really do understand those concerns, but I still think - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:21:38

               For you, the mother has a right to simply kill it until it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:11:07

                    You consider a fertilized cell human?(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:14:36

                         What defines human? (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 14:22:50

                         I do personally - yes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:19:22

                              We have always referred to the birth - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:22:53

                                   So it’s not “human” until the cord is cut? Again, your - Outsider MU - 10/18 14:25:31

                                   No we have not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:23:44

                                        It is a fetus while the umbilical cord is attached - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:24:29

                                             since we're playing "what ifs" - what if b/c of a congenital - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:29:59

                                                  According to meat, people on life support could all be - Outsider MU - 10/18 14:33:22

                                                       so who are you going to force to keep people on - ashtray UF - 10/18 14:36:21

                                                            You do know that not all people who go on some form of - Outsider MU - 10/18 14:48:53

                                                                 but someone has to put them on life support, don't they? - ashtray UF - 10/18 14:50:37

                                                                      So you are against Emergency services? Hospitals? - Outsider MU - 10/18 14:58:17

                                                                           no, you should really learn to read and comprehend - ashtray UF - 10/18 14:59:00

                                                                                Please do explain. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:00:29

                                                                                     who is the slave you are going to force to hook them up - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:01:56

                                                                                          Uh, I believe slavery was abolished some time ago… - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:02:57

                                                                                               what about the right to life? (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:03:29

                                                                                                    What about it? Are we done talking about slaves? (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:05:00

                                                                                                         does the person have a right to life or not? - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:05:50

                                                                                                              A court would decide that. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:11:20

                                                                                                                   lol.. so you have no answer - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:21:21

                                                                                                                        A jury is not the government. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:24:31

                                                                                                                             so courts are private entities now? - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:25:52

                                                                                                                                  A jury isn’t the government. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:28:36

                                                                                                                                       court is, you idiot (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:29:29

                                                                                                                                            And in the court is a jury you dumbfuk. A prosecutor is - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:37:18

                                                                                                                                                 LMAO - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:40:32

                                                                                                                                                      Owned. Now go outside and play bytch. (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:43:03

                                                                                                                                                           yes. yes you were - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:43:40

                                                                                                                                                                Ha! Says the guy who believes being on a jury is - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:46:27

                                                                                                                                                                     there's your reading comprehension problems again - ashtray UF - 10/18 15:54:34

                                                                                                                                                                          Quit bothering me asshat, I’m searching zip recruiter for - Outsider MU - 10/18 15:58:42

                                                                                                                                                                               even if that were a job, they wouldn't hire you - ashtray UF - 10/18 16:03:19

                                                                                                                                                                                    But it’s a govt. job, they’ll even take you. Haha! (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 16:06:35

                                                                                                                                                                                         I'm sure they would love to have me - ashtray UF - 10/18 16:11:12

                                                                                                                                                                                              LMAO! (nm) - Outsider MU - 10/18 16:13:32

                                                                                                                                                                                                   nice laydown (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/18 16:15:47

                                                  good question - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:32:28

                                                       I disagree, but I think that's fair for your to think that. - dangertim MU - 10/18 14:34:40

                                                            fair point - meatiger MU - 10/18 15:06:44

                                                                 It's my personal (unscientific) opinion that the rigid - dangertim MU - 10/18 15:36:36

                                             I cannot believe you continue to shock me - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 14:26:48

                                             So it’s crying, moving, breathing…but not “human” - Outsider MU - 10/18 14:26:46

     the mother, doctor and all who knowingly participate - Spanky KU - 10/18 13:47:03

          Should get good when meat explains to them they don't - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 10/18 13:52:05

          “question for umm and DT” (nm) - pickle MU - 10/18 13:48:58

               anyone can answer - meatiger MU - 10/18 14:08:58

               There is a PM function if he wants - tman MU - 10/18 13:57:57

               RE: “question for umm and DT” (nm) - MUTGR MU - 10/18 13:52:46