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Also, I understand that you tried to tie the broad concept

Posted on: May 31, 2021 at 18:51:38 CT
ummmm MU
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to relatable and local situations.

But that is where the disconnect lies. You picked two situations where all individuals were voluntarily on board with a shared goal in mind and applied it to something that is quite obviously not.

Again, why that approach? Why is it so important to make big govt look voluntarily? Is it because voluntariness matters?
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          Of course. Why would you not?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 16:53:13
               That figures - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/31 17:12:37
          Sure, why not? (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/31 16:49:08
               Because it's not a happy day for them... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 5/31 17:10:11
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                    It’s also a day of celebration and honor. Do you not - Outsider MU - 5/31 17:14:51
                    It is not about being happy anyone died - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:13:14
     Could you explain the "sacrifice" part? - Ace AU - 5/31 16:37:24
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          Expected from a selfish soul(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 5/31 16:56:10
          Jeez, you are a genuine dik head (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/31 16:51:27
          you are not ‘genuinely asking’ - Spanky KU - 5/31 16:44:51
          To sacrifice is to give up something of value for a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 16:43:11
               i see those as risks of the job. Most of us have jobs. Some - Ace AU - 5/31 17:25:38
                    A risk can most certainly involve sacrifice - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 18:11:53
                         No, they are not mutually exclusive. But using the cliche of - Ace AU - 5/31 18:16:38
               Nothing makes my skin crawl like the phrase - ummmm MU - 5/31 16:48:18
                    "for the greater good"...4tigs sounds like a socialist(nm) - tigerdb MU - 5/31 17:12:12
                    Because you don’t understand collective purpose, - Spanky KU - 5/31 16:57:37
                         We're all in this together, huh? (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:08:15
                              We are a society, not an individual.(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/31 17:25:09
                                   A Great Society. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:29:44
                                        Just a society(nm) - Spanky KU - 5/31 17:34:37
                         Guilty as charged. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:00:05
                              I know. I didn’t editorialize on the correctness of your - Spanky KU - 5/31 17:09:09
                    And yet most of us seem to get it and - Outsider MU - 5/31 16:56:38
                         I don't understand its usage, for the reasons I just noted. - ummmm MU - 5/31 16:59:38
                              As I said, many of us know what and why - Outsider MU - 5/31 17:02:50
                                   And you have other groups of people pursuing their own - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:10:09
                    I find that a bit excessive - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 16:54:07
                         Exactly, to each his/her own. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 16:57:14
                              I must assume you cringe if wedding vows include - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:16:32
                                   People don't get married for the greater good, and if they - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:22:24
                                        They pledge to remain together for better or worse - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:27:00
                                             Yes, it is a declaration of the individual. It is an express - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:29:13
                                                  So you don't see that vow as to the other person, but as the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:31:47
                                                       No, that's not what I said Cathy Newman. (nm) - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:33:00
                                                            So if I say my church is doing something for the greater - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:34:36
                                                                 Once again, you are using local situations with voluntary - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:37:26
                                                                      Where did I ever do that? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:40:15
                                                                           In this thread. Your OP talked about individuals making - ummmm MU - 5/31 17:46:57
                                                                                He did not ask about sacrifice tied only to this example of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 5/31 17:52:44
                                                                                     Also, I understand that you tried to tie the broad concept - ummmm MU - 5/31 18:51:38
                                                                                          He completely believes in central authority - meatiger MU - 5/31 18:59:40
                                                                                               Any conservative who has lamented the insane - ummmm MU - 5/31 19:07:22
                                                                                                    MAGA was completely about the greater good - meatiger MU - 5/31 20:38:32
                                                                                     He asked you for an explanation of your use of the term in - ummmm MU - 5/31 18:46:00
     thanks, *M* (nm) - pickle MU - 5/31 16:28:02
          HOLY FAKE TITS, BATMAN PENIS!!! ROLL TIDE!!!!! - Tigrrrr! MU - 5/31 16:57:43




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