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you are missing the point entirely (nm)
Posted on: November 17, 2020 at 11:58:04 CT
pickle
MU
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The similarities between a potential govt-enforced
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 10:59:13
Would you ratther have had the economy fail w/out relief
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raskolnikov
MU
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11/17 12:38:45
always with emotions and logical fallacies
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pickle
MU
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11/17 12:53:12
One really big difference
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*M*
KC
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11/17 11:37:43
That's nothing but rhetoric appealing to the emotional (nm)
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Sal
MU
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11/17 11:48:29
I'm not trying to appeal to anything or anyone
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*M*
KC
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11/17 12:00:56
"millions of people been unable to feed their families"
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SwampTiger
MU
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11/17 12:06:10
No, it is a statement of fact. It may be a fact which
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*M*
KC
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11/17 12:08:36
it’s a logical fallacy (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/17 12:24:29
No. You don't know a logical fallacy when you see one(nm)
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*M*
KC
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11/17 12:26:56
no it isn't (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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11/17 12:10:15
GFY(nm)
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*M*
KC
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11/17 12:13:31
lol (nm)
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SwampTiger
MU
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11/17 12:23:29
That's not a difference at all. The same feel good, save
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:47:20
It's a huge diffference in the consequences of inaction
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*M*
KC
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11/17 12:07:51
The COVID relief program wouldn't be needed if the gov't
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Eggs
MU
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11/17 11:40:03
I don't quarrel with that. That was not my point.
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*M*
KC
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11/17 11:43:07
I would say this comparison misses on one key area
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:05:44
The government money
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meatiger
MU
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11/17 12:16:21
That makes them totally different, but ummm is trying to
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:17:30
Can you explain this one?
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:23:12
Wow, really? You need this explained to you?
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:28:35
not a single person was forced to open a business (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:30:33
No but they were forced to close them. Opening a business
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:33:34
every business?
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:34:58
You are right. Every business operating on razor thin
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:38:57
straw man (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/17 11:40:50
But opening a business gives the hope of a better life
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:31:40
lol... poor DHighlander (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:33:02
That doesn't explain your sentence. It just draws the same
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:30:23
No direct government intervention caused the problem.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:32:51
Are you talking about student loans or COVID?
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:33:40
The government made student loans easy to get but no
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:37:11
The government/federal reserve has made business loans
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:51:14
you probably want to sit this one out
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:21:56
You probably want to sit this one out. You are too stupid
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:23:09
I understand everything far more than you ever will
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:24:44
It is self-evident that you are a complete f-ing moron.
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:30:25
wow (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/17 11:40:13
you could have just said "No, I still don't know what it
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:31:24
No I made you look stupid. Because self-evident is either
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:35:40
now you're doubling down and looking twice as stupid (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:41:07
I don't disagree colleges make it easy to make bad decisions
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:20:24
I agree. But when students default on those loans the
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:25:21
The government compelled no one to start a small business. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:11:39
But starting the business was not the root cause of the
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:13:18
The root cause of both hardships is govt.
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:17:03
But the cause of each issue was not starting a business or
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:18:44
It is completely different but you will never get ummm to
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DHighlander
NWMSU
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11/17 11:22:05
I know you don't operate in the business world and you live
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:27:13
that's what dishonest people do
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:30:10
"Many did not have the resources to survive that"
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:24:17
I know - it is obvious
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:23:47
nobody forced them to open a business (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:22:59
I know. I literally just said that the cause of each issue
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:21:56
When you are a relatively new business, you don't have
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:26:20
Okay, so that's one minor sliver.
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:28:23
I almost feel sorry for you
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:37:37
This post by you is akin to a laydown. No substance
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:52:01
I mean it
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:55:14
you are missing the point entirely (nm)
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pickle
MU
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11/17 11:58:04
nobody forced anyone to open a business
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:56:39
Did anyone force businesses or commercial landlords to take
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:55:55
No, but with college the issue is directly the loan you took
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:59:39
so if a student took out a loan with promises of a big
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 12:05:47
then they should have waited until they had more capital
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:27:06
read up on the austrian business cycle theory
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pickle
MU
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11/17 11:08:39
failure to save for unexpected closure
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:07:02
That is fair argument
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:10:50
Yes, it does. Bad decision-making bailed out by govt
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ummmm
MU
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11/17 11:13:10
I don't think my neighbor who lost his restaurant made bad
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:14:50
Did he support trump?(nm)
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Toger
STL
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11/17 11:26:25
it's directly refutes your comparison (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:12:30
The difference with ummm's original comparison remains
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:16:08
nothing flawed about his comparison at all (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:20:27
Ask yourself what caused the financial hardship in each
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:21:43
wrong
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:23:53
Two weeks of being closed?
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:27:12
when the stimulus was passed, yes
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:28:36
Good grief - you aren't even being serious
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:32:32
2 weeks to flatten the curve!
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:34:03
Major backtrack here(nm)
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tman
MU
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11/17 11:30:48
Sometimes with the stupid gets thick
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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11/17 11:33:09
yes, he's trying to backtrack and it's obvious (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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11/17 11:31:48
Where does it end? What if college graduates cannot
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TigerMatt
STL
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11/17 11:03:47
yep
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pickle
MU
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11/17 11:01:44