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But why does the defense have to prove there is a problem?

Posted on: November 3, 2019 at 14:42:48 CT
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Isn’t the burden supposed to be on the prosecution to prove that the tools they are using are accurate?
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Drunk Driving and Fake Science - pickle MU - 11/3 13:28:10
     I happen to know a couple - Iam4Mizzou MU - 11/3 15:35:44
          yep. Matt touched on that below (nm) - pickle MU - 11/3 15:51:22
     I confess to only reading a third of that. But, I will - jonesin - 11/3 14:44:14
          I would propose this as a first - meatiger MU - 11/3 15:29:51
               I would agree but that would also force localities to fully - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 15:43:50
                    I do, the question is do you actually read posts before - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 16:04:36
                         so you justify pulling people over - meatiger MU - 11/3 17:04:43
                         Tigggrrr said the police get nothing. Which is it? nm - jonesin - 11/3 16:09:02
                    Do you actually ever think - meatiger MU - 11/3 15:47:53
          It's ALL about police state control AND revenue. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/3 15:09:06
               Yeah, that's it. A cash cow for the legal system.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 15:11:42
                    It is a huge cash cow for the legal system - meatiger MU - 11/3 15:31:17
                         Police don't get a dime from fines or court costs.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 15:56:50
                              LOL - meatiger MU - 11/3 17:03:10
                                   Not from fines or forfeitures. - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 17:09:12
                                        well..the city gets it - meatiger MU - 11/3 17:16:58
                                             It is not earmarked for police(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 17:34:58
                                                  Recoupment. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/3 19:52:31
                                                  God damnn - meatiger MU - 11/3 17:42:55
                                                       Your dream. - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 17:45:30
                              No Tgggggrr. You guys are just the muscle. I mean you - jonesin - 11/3 16:00:15
                         You can argue that it is needed or not. You cannot really - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 15:42:08
                              that’s not the argument (nm) - pickle MU - 11/3 15:50:41
                                   Do you drink and drive?(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 16:06:59
                              If there is zero sign of impairment - meatiger MU - 11/3 15:46:47
                    Read for Detail. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/3 15:12:29
               It's all about police state control and revenue (nm) - pickle MU - 11/3 15:10:07
                    For the slow learners, again, this is false. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/3 15:11:25
                         it isn’t false (nm) - pickle MU - 11/3 15:11:49
     "you want our children to be killed by drunk drivers" and "y - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:29:05
          Drunk driving is a hazard, we should not wait until they - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:40:07
               how about you test folks after they've actually committed - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:44:00
                    That is idiotic. - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 14:56:50
                         Actually it's not idiotic...but you're a police state joke - mizzoumurfkc KC - 11/3 15:28:57
                              Ok - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 16:04:38
                                   And those are extremes. Fine. Nail them. Leave folks - jonesin - 11/3 16:12:23
                                        No one harmed in any of those - pickle MU - 11/3 16:56:22
                                             Because they were taken off the road before they had a - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 17:07:00
                                        Those are typical drunk driving arrests. - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 16:26:37
                                             They weren't speeding.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/3 18:15:11
                                                  No. The guy running down the highway on a rim - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 18:40:01
                         Who said wait to stop someone? I said wait to test - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 15:00:09
                              You don't. You use your observations and field sobriety tes - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 15:06:07
                    Because it is stupid! If a cop sees someone driving - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:50:29
                         The ticket people for driving erratically and keep the magic - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:51:52
                              That is fine by me. Or at least prove that the box was - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:56:44
                                   Except the "box" changes it from a - meatiger MU - 11/3 15:56:31
                                   The box, and operators, gets tested regularly by samples - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 14:59:19
                                        lmfao. You should have stopped at 11 words. (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 15:00:50
                                             Why bother to test and certify any piece of equipment? - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 15:07:17
               Strip searches are the only way to be sure.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 11/3 14:41:13
               Guns are a hazard, we shouldn't wait until someone uses - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:41:13
                    A properly used gun is no more dangerous than a properly - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:45:06
                         You've proven you're comfortable abdicating rights in - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:49:00
                              No you are a stupid f*ck who believes in absolutes like - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:54:25
                                   “You do not have a right...” is an absolute (nm) - pickle MU - 11/3 15:02:31
                                   If you understood even the basic tenets of rights, you'd - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:57:23
     The whole criminal forensic "science" field is a fraud. - TigerMatt STL - 11/3 14:22:30
          You left out bite mark evidence.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 14:59:51
          So I'm wasting my time watching "Forensic Files"?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 11/3 14:29:04
               Yes the field is rigged to get the convictions they want and - TigerMatt STL - 11/3 14:38:13
     The problem is the failure to expose the fallacies of the - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/3 14:12:19
          the problem is the power of the gvmt (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:30:56
          How? The way the tests are done there is no way for the - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:18:34
               False. - MizzouTigerz MU - 11/3 14:35:30
                    But why does the defense have to prove there is a problem? - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 14:42:48
                         oh holy crap you're thick (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:47:43
     There is a strong case for poverty that links to dangerous - Freeglider USA - 11/3 14:10:31
     There's a post I'll go along with. The more - GA Tiger MU - 11/3 14:01:32
     Retrograde extrapolation is the funniest - gmmm98 MU - 11/3 13:56:04
     Drunk driving laws are not about making the roads safer. - DHighlander NWMSU - 11/3 13:51:18
          Get stopped at a checkpoint and be subject to an - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 11/3 14:40:55
     But it’s easy to arrest drinkers - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/3 13:50:43
     tl:dr - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 13:42:06
          we know, you're capable of about 11 words at a time, and - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:29:59
               Good deal. - Tigrrrr! MU - 11/3 14:34:31
                    That's a good start! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/3 14:44:28




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