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Are you concerned about Due Process, fairness, and the

Posted on: October 23, 2019 at 09:33:30 CT
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appearance of impropriety?

Really?

Are those things required for a legitimate impeachment process?

Where, pray tell, does one start?

Maybe by not lying about what was said in a phone call?

Maybe by not lying about meeting with an alleged whistleblower?

Maybe by disclosing the alleged whistleblower's ties with a presidential candidate, and his political leanings?

Maybe by granting full access to discovery material? (I think the President's clearance is good enough to cover quadruple XXXXXXXX TOP Secret files.)

Maybe by granting subpoena power to the accused?

Maybe by removing unethical Schiff from railroading the accused, because at a minimum, he has to not only refrain from actual impropriety, but the appearance of impropriety as well; and no one can honestly say he has avoided the appearance of impropriety.

And maybe you want to stop being intellectually dishonest about how this whole thing is being handled.

Maybe you actually want to start with those matters if you're actually concerned that every citizen is afforded Due Process under the law. What exception is there to the exercise of Due Process in an impeachment inquiry?

Edited by MizzouTigerz at 09:35:46 on 10/23/19
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Are you concerned about Due Process, fairness, and the - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 09:33:30
     Impeachment =/= civil trial =/= criminal trial. (nm) - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/23 10:25:29
          Whatever you call it, however you define it, be it a college - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:35:33
               DUE PROCESS! - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:36:54
                    Section. 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:41:22
                         really? - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:47:31
                              In addition, - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/23 10:55:53
                                   If clearly falls into the property rights category, every - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 11:00:57
                                        no (nm) - pickle MU - 10/23 11:07:06
                              I didn't make an argument one way or the other at the time. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:51:59
                                   how convenient (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:52:46
                                        It's not my fault truth bothers you. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:57:09
                                             LOL (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:58:15
               You've made up this requirement. - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/23 10:36:31
                    No it is not. It is shutting out GOP members on committees - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:47:31
                         no it isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 10/23 11:07:25
                         That is a LIE - MrBlueSky MU - 10/23 11:03:40
                              Can GOP committee members call witnesses? Can they freely - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 11:25:07
                                   If I'm reading your post correctly, - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/23 11:31:03
                                        My understanding is that in at least some of these - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 11:40:58
                                             Thanks for the clarification. - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/23 11:52:02
                         No, it isn't - DC Jayhawk KU - 10/23 10:53:11
                         because the House has been so bipartisan - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:49:32
                              I am not defending Trump, I have yet to see anything that - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 11:00:20
                                   do you feel like Trump is wrongly accused? - ashtray UF - 10/23 11:09:43
                                        There is absolutely nothing criminal in his phone - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 11:23:18
                                             So you have nothing to worry about - ashtray UF - 10/23 11:24:46
                                                  Not my hero, but he is the duly elected President and he - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 11:39:34
                                                       sure, if you don't consider bribery criminal (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/23 11:58:36
     RE: Are you concerned about Due Process, fairness, and the - raskolnikov MU - 10/23 09:51:36
          You would rather people leakspin than release transcripts - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:11:05
               no - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:12:36
                    Not every inquiry is secret, and some inquiries, like Grand - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:31:17
                         This is a political, not a criminal proceeding(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 10/23 11:19:43
                         it speaks volumes to someone not interested in discovering - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:36:07
                              Asking for open meeting or transcripts without spin is not, - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:49:10
                                   you want those things released for one of two reasons... - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:51:17
                                        I'm a criminal defense attorney, and I've seen the process - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:55:44
                                             that’s as frightening as DH’s being a teacher (nm) - pickle MU - 10/23 11:08:51
                                             Have you defended a politician involved in - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:57:57
                                                  Have you defended a student or a fired employee? - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 11:02:09
                                                       you’re talking property rights but defend fired employees??? - pickle MU - 10/23 11:15:10
                                                            Public employees. Public schools. Due Process. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 13:19:06
                                                            It almost seems like he's under the impression - ashtray UF - 10/23 11:15:59
                                                       those aren't political office - ashtray UF - 10/23 11:10:47
                              How was the Nixon impeachment trial open when it never - tman MU - 10/23 10:41:32
          I think it has been pretty well established that this person - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:03:52
               "pretty well established" - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:04:36
                    He was a Biden staffer who had no first hand knowledge of - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:14:46
                         "get him on the stand" - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:16:22
                              Committee hearings have witness stands. Funny how this - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:19:59
                                   what are they afraid of? - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:22:00
                                        My issue is that articles of impeachment are function of - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:42:44
                                             wrong - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:52:19
          From the man who promised Hillary's win. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/23 10:01:14
     House makes the rules, dude. It’s your system (nm) - pickle MU - 10/23 09:51:15
          Any rules made by the House must pass the constitutional - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:14:41
               Nope (nm) - pickle MU - 10/23 10:29:35
               false (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:16:35
                    You don't understand the requirements of the Constitution. - MizzouTigerz MU - 10/23 10:37:30
                         I do - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:53:21
     LOL (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/23 09:44:52
     If you're going to start with not lying about a phone call - Mormad MU - 10/23 09:44:32
     Ever since he was elected.(nm) - Toger STL - 10/23 09:43:28
     They are showing how they intend to rule in dem socialism. - RHAYWORTH MU - 10/23 09:43:05
          LOL (nm) - ashtray UF - 10/23 09:48:08
     The dems are going to have to eventually make a case - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/23 09:38:11
          of course they will - ashtray UF - 10/23 09:48:43
               I defend my wallet at all costs - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/23 09:49:39
                    that seems like a fruitless mission - ashtray UF - 10/23 09:51:27
                         well on that we can agree - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 10/23 09:55:47
                              All of those Republicans out there - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:01:29
                                   And with that statement you have just nailed the reason for - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:07:48
                                        of course it's political - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:11:40
                                             No, impeachments are a political solution for criminal - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/23 10:50:27
                                                  Let's take a trip back in time to 1999 - Mormad MU - 10/23 11:00:02
                                                       More Lindsey... - Mormad MU - 10/23 11:04:40
                                                            they don't like history - ashtray UF - 10/23 11:12:05
                                                  I haven't seen where this impeachment inquiry - ashtray UF - 10/23 10:55:03
     Did you have a stroke?(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 10/23 09:35:43




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