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Would you say the war England waged against the colonies

Posted on: July 26, 2018 at 10:12:53 CT
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was a war to prevent state/colonial/American independence?

Is that not what happened in the 1860s? Were states not seceding? Did Lincoln not wage a war to prevent them and to preserve the union?

Edited by pickle at 10:13:57 on 07/26/18
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Fake Populism - ummmm MU - 7/26 09:36:00
     Well thank goodness he cleared up what the Civil War - GA Tiger MU - 7/26 10:59:51
     lol "The War to Prevent Southern Independence" - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/26 10:10:40
          Would you say the war England waged against the colonies - pickle MU - 7/26 10:12:53
               Ragnar will call it whatever his high school texts told him - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:16:08
                    When do we get the Pickle/ummm declaration of - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/26 10:32:43
                         were the colonies seceding from England? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 10:33:50
                              yes - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/26 11:01:55
                                   How is it different? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 12:39:28
                                   Pretty similar secessions. - ummmm MU - 7/26 11:14:50
                                        Again - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/26 11:17:11
                                             You've never demonstrated otherwise - ummmm MU - 7/26 11:19:01
                                                  It's not my job to educate you(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/26 11:19:59
                                                       Oh, I know. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/26 11:21:17
                         It wouldn't read much different than the one authored by - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:33:41
                              The orders of secession by the southern states - MrBlueSky MU - 7/26 10:43:54
                                   uh...check your sequencing here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 11:07:43
                                   Thomas Jefferson died in the 1820s (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/26 11:06:38
                                        Your article in op - MrBlueSky MU - 7/26 11:12:57
                                             Holy **** you're stupid (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 12:40:36
                                             Irrelevant to how this thread evolved. - ummmm MU - 7/26 11:13:53
                                                  It is relevant - MrBlueSky MU - 7/26 11:15:59
                                                       damn you're thick (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 11:18:45
                                                       RE: It is relevant - ummmm MU - 7/26 11:18:13
                                   I suggest you reread this subthread - pickle MU - 7/26 10:49:35
                    Teapot Dome (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 10:19:46
     RE: Fake outrage and news(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 7/26 10:10:29
     about the only thing jackson got right(nm) - escalade NWMSU - 7/26 10:09:46
     tarriffs are wrong. tarriffs suck. - justwinbaby KC - 7/26 09:37:22
          you just have to ask and if they say no, keep asking but - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 09:43:56
               Why are you deliberately mischaracterizing? (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 09:54:41
                    mischaracterizing what? am I to read your mind? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:04:19
               Are you okay with Trump's trade war?(nm) - Gyro MU - 7/26 09:46:02
                    There's been a "trade war" raging your entire life. Trump - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 09:49:54
                         RE: There's been a "trade war" raging your entire life. Trump - meatiger MU - 7/26 10:53:33
                         What do you consider short term? Long term?(nm) - Mo Texan MU - 7/26 10:21:05
                              not sure, until the process or attempt clearly fails or - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:27:08
                                   Hopefully Trumps plan includes a time line and plan B. - Mo Texan MU - 7/26 11:15:48
                                        Plan B is go back to accepting it and attempting nothing - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 11:31:46
                                             That’s not a plan B, it’s a fail-especially if the economy - Mo Texan MU - 7/26 13:45:02
                         Ok, but this is under his watch, so the title is appropriate - Mormad MU - 7/26 09:54:17
                              then it will have failed and if trump doesn't remove the - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:06:51
                                   Lol - meatiger MU - 7/26 10:54:48
                                   That's fair enough - Mormad MU - 7/26 10:09:17
                                        Tariffs have been reducing in the last 40 years - meatiger MU - 7/26 10:56:10
                                        ummmm tells me you just ask again. I haven't heard anyone - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:17:34
                                             Do what obama did - meatiger MU - 7/26 10:56:51
                                             I get the ummm/Pickle comments - Mormad MU - 7/26 10:23:39
                                                  Well - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/26 10:31:50
                                                       who was the jackass for the last X decades to blame for - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:41:51
                                                       Well, Trump offered tariff free trade to the EU and was - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:41:13
                                                            Yep. He was told no. - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/26 11:09:51
                                                                 whatever it is, it's been a problem long before Jan 2017 (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 11:33:01
                                                                 yeah, the trade levels are identical - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 11:32:25
                                                       I guess you can blame his personality - Mormad MU - 7/26 10:37:06
                                                  yup, that sums it up nicely. I don't like tariffs either bu - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:26:03
                                                  As an addendum to that: - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:25:50
                                                       yeah, i know (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:26:15
                                             Yes, just ask again. - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:22:53
                                                  I understand and acknowledge your position (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:27:31
               Not all kinds of leverage is force, but tariffs as leverage - ummmm MU - 7/26 09:45:53
                    Nobody is arguing in support of new long-term tariffs - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 09:51:03
                         Nobody including Trump. The author of the article in the - MUTGR MU - 7/26 10:03:40
                              Does the author differentiate between long term and alleged - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:04:43
                         There shouldn't be support for alleged short term - ummmm MU - 7/26 09:51:43
                              Yeah, I know that's your position and we disagree, but - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 09:52:21
                                   "we disagree" - pickle MU - 7/26 09:58:00
                                        yeah, we disagree on using short term tariffs as leverage to - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:05:42
                                             What's the steak thing about? (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:16:27
                                                  I'm pretty sure it's a Matrix reference - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/26 10:18:47
                                                       Got it. - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:21:44
                                                            I would have totally pegged you as a Keanu Reeves fan. - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/26 10:27:30
                                                                 Haha. - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:31:33
                                                                      The Animatrix is really good too (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 10:35:04
                                                                 I never got into them. saw the first one, maybe have seen - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:28:29
                                                                      The second one is not nearly as good. - DC Jayhawk KU - 7/26 10:34:18
                                                            Just watch the first one - pickle MU - 7/26 10:24:08
                                                       Yep (nm) - pickle MU - 7/26 10:21:08
                                                       yeah, that's it. pickle is authentic (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:19:58
                                                  ask pickle. - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:18:32
                                   I don't know what I've missed - ummmm MU - 7/26 09:53:45
                                        It's obvious you don't, but sure (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:04:41
                                             I'm against tariffs in whatever form they may come in - ummmm MU - 7/26 10:05:38
                                                  I know, you've said that. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 7/26 10:07:04
          I agree. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/26 09:38:14




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