Interesting post, thanks. A few thoughts

Posted on: July 12, 2018 at 12:24:17 CT

In assessing that 2012 class and MU, its important context to consider this post from Killer on September 7, 2011 (which he is relaying essentially from speaking with the staff):

"Certainly, almost all these top 100 kids we were in on are Fuller's recruits, but the reason everyone has dropped Mizzou from consideration is the situation of uncertainty without a public vote of confidence for Haith and the coaching staff. Labor day weekend was really the time frame this needed to be resolved and when it wasn't, these kids and their families had to start scheduling in home visits for next week without Mizzou on the list.

Here is who we apparently lost out on. And yes, I'm 100% sure this info is accurate. Careful, you might be ill.

#6 Rodney Purvis
#7 Anthony Bennett
#11 Jarnell Stokes
#15 Danuel House
#47 Chicken Knowles
#59 Montay Brandon
#77 DeMarquise Johnson

We wouldn't have gotten all these kids, but there are two of them that were really in the bag for the most part, and two others that we had a great shot at. There was little doubt this was going to be a huge pull with all the scholarships we had to offer. At this point, it appears that it's up in flames and I'm told there is no getting back in."



On Beidschied, things seemed to turn south for him as a freshman after his punching match with a St John's player:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-03-06/sports/chi-notre-dame-fight-20130306_1_cam-biedscheid-notre-dame-s-biedscheid-louisville

Following that game he only scored a combined total of 5 points at Notre Dame and went 1-19 from the field. It is interesting that he ended up at Harris Stowe, where the guy who originally brought him to MU in Tim Fuller was working. His entire playing career would have likely turned out much differently had Haith not decided to move on to Tulsa, he probably would have just had a more focused and productive final 3 seasons on some rather high caliber teams.

On Rosburg, I never bought into the notion that in his last few games at MU he just 'figured things out'. He was a legit go to option for a period, granted on an incredibly crappy team but against formidable opposition, and that kind of massive change of course in ability doesn't actually just happen. He could have done that all along, as evidenced by his 71.6% FG% as a sophomore in a more limited role. His issue was how he was utilized as a junior, and his massive loss in confidence that resulted. That said, I've never seen a less effective defensive rebounder given his size and role. His defensive rebounding numbers are mind boggling. Another guy whose career would have likely turned out much better had we not lost Haith following his sophomore season.

Shaq Harrison is an interesting inclusion, and certainly speaks to the kind of development that might have occurred in others had we retained the staff we had in place when this class was being compiled. He certainly ended up being the best player on this list, by a wide margin.

Never heard of Marvin Clark before this, that is an interesting story.

Really just an unfortunate class for MU, even the backup options that we landed after the Nevin Shapiro allegations kind of held our program hostage were of reasonably decent caliber had they just stuck around and developed on a normal curve. Alot of our program's struggles though over the last few years, outside of deciding to become a D2 program, can be traced back directly to that 2012 class.