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I agree with that completely. I never wanted anyone to

Posted on: January 16, 2018 at 12:50:28 CT
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infer my stance to be comepletely ignore them and go on with business as usual. I'm glad they're being listened to and changes are being made. I'm not naive enough to think Columbia or MU was perfect.

However, I do believe the entire thing is blown out of proportion. I feel like I should state it again, that doesn't mean I think their concerns aren't valid or shouldn't be listened to.
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Hey, the SI piece about Cuonzo is up and it's - LimerNick MU - 1/16 11:13:33
     If Cuonzo is really here to 'stand up to racists' then it's - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:29:00
          you certainly are an expert on stupid - Jeff85 MU - 1/16 18:13:19
               Good argument - very cogent.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 18:28:42
          Fail. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:31:24
               The irony is it means he's part of the problem. He (and - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:33:18
                    RE: The irony is it means he's part of the problem. He (and - CPA MU - 1/16 16:51:29
                         I seriously doubt that if Cuonzo had said in his interview - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 17:01:06
                    RE: The irony is it means he's part of the problem. He (and - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 15:39:24
                         Meh. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:50:48
     The false narrative almost overshadows - JG MU - 1/16 14:59:34
     What mindset do you bring with you when you step on campus? - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 14:45:39
          the parking sucks and I do not care about anything other tha - Jeff85 MU - 1/16 18:11:02
     I finally gave up my SI subscription last year - TigerUppercut MU - 1/16 13:51:52
     What I would love to see, from our Journalism school - jumbo73 MU - 1/16 12:37:43
          No, instead we get the Alumni magazine with a photoshoot - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/16 16:56:23
          As long as those AA students agree with you. - zodiac6 JC - 1/16 14:17:33
               Nope - it's clearly their job to act as the PR wing of the - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:10:03
               What about other races that are choosing to go elsewhere - Barnburner KC - 1/16 14:31:32
          i'd recommend actually reading the dozens of articles - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 12:56:12
               lets see 24+ links. I googled. Came up with nada.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:11:50
                    The Missourian and KBIA have done great work on the topic - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:12:43
                         RE: The Missourian and KBIA have done great work on the topic - CPA MU - 1/16 16:56:18
                         so 2? yet I don't see any links.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:13:31
                              then you aren't looking - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:14:58
                                   of course not because you can't defend your claim. You lied - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:15:54
                                        lol - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:16:07
                                             Stick to the lie. Don't let up.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:17:37
     that definitely paints Cuonzo in a bad light. Sad.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:19:37
          disagree - Jeff85 MU - 1/16 18:07:21
          jesus you go out of your way to look really dumb on this - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 12:54:00
               you love you some fake narratives. There was nothing to be - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:09:44
                    and for some people anger-inducing - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:11:46
                         They were completely valid..... - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:12:59
                              and you continue - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:15:58
                                   how am I wrong? All you seem to have is ad homenum - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:16:55
                                        you claimed the article made Martin look bad - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:17:46
                                             how so? I provided evidence. You provided nothing.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:52:46
                                                  Pretty funny that you consider what you provided as evidence - Cosmo MU - 1/16 15:11:26
               Hey but he has a contrarian point of view - Cosmo MU - 1/16 13:16:12
                    He is entitled to his opinion, but it his opinion - DevilsAdvocate MU - 1/16 13:25:10
                         and it typically is a really dumb opinion - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 13:46:48
               He's a joke haha(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 12:55:43
                    No $hit(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:45:35
          Wrong (nm) - YounGun*TC* DU - 1/16 12:50:58
          You mean because he persevered and succeeded rather - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:24:06
               That's what 90% of the article is about - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:34:44
          How so?(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:20:59
               He bought into the michael brown lies. - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:26:14
                    RE: He bought into the michael brown lies. - CPA MU - 1/16 17:27:24
                    We can not all be like you(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 1/16 13:17:48
                         I'd hope not. basketball wouldn't be much fun to watch.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:14:10
                    Which lies is he quoted as "buying into" - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:34:01
                         RE: Which lies is he quoted as "buying into" - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:44:32
                              i hope it was the writer being an idiot, not Martin saying t - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:12:01
                              I thought I had you pegged, now I know I do. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:48:17
                              Yeah, that Cuonzo is a real bad egg. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/16 12:52:39
                              he is a father, brown died and he was mad. - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 12:48:05
                              There's no quote there - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:47:15
                                   Exactly(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:48:50
                    I suspect you are like most of us on this board, who would - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:33:13
                         many people outside of STL believe the lies. - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:43:01
     When my friends or coworkers show a lack of effort - KCSwede MU - 1/16 12:14:16
     I take a different message from that article - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:12:48
          I think... - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:18:47
               RE: I think... - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:20:20
               Cottonballs. in 2010. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 14:52:50
                    says the white man(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 16:07:34
                         Your response suggests that you think a white man can't - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 16:22:14
                              Incorrect assumption. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 16:36:06
                                   Funny you think you are in a position to make that call - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 18:09:44
                                        And, here we go again.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 18:10:57
               RE: I think... - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:35:47
                    In many places, yes. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:36:48
                         Something middleton said in the article - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:38:19
               No offense, but you have no idea what it's like on - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:33:37
               The majority of the time the trouble makers both black and - MU-TULSA MU - 1/16 12:30:38
               I mean I guess that is an issue. Not the real issue though - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:23:16
                    RE: I mean I guess that is an issue. Not the real issue though - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:26:23
                         Like I said, not really a topic of interest for me and not - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:38:16
                         You know jack and *&^% about MU and just want to - MU-TULSA MU - 1/16 12:32:41
                         do you have a link for that data point, btw, the one r - 90Tiger MU - 1/16 12:32:37
                              Obviously, referring to the protests on campus* - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:34:14
                                   One radical organization stages a protest and sucks in a few - MU-TULSA MU - 1/16 13:35:30
                                        And we wonder why AA protested.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:46:01
                                             RE: And we wonder why AA protested.(nm) - CPA MU - 1/16 17:34:55
                                                  I'm stunned a basketball player would get special treatment - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 18:10:27
                                             They were fed false information. The student body president - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:00:52
                                                  Your position isn't surprising.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 15:21:36
                                                       My position is that when lies are admitted, I accept the - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:26:02
                                                            RE: My position is that when lies are admitted, I accept the - CPA MU - 1/16 17:43:47
                                   as the majority? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:37:26
                         tj, I hate to ruin your go-to argument, but stating a group - 90Tiger MU - 1/16 12:30:08
                              Thanks, but you don't ruin it at all. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:33:15
                                   It is open to debate, as to the actual events claimed, being - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:03:57
                                   "The AA students and AA athletes who protested" - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:36:43
                                        Disagree. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:38:35
                                             Then why did the basketball team refuse to get involved, and - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:06:09
                                                  Sigh(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 15:21:55
                                             I know first hand that you're wrong. - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:41:05
                                                  Sometimes people just want to protest - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:45:11
                                                       There are proximity issues in a marriage which are not a - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:11:31
                                                       And for the good of your marriage, it's also helpful to - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:56:24
                                                            Of course - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 13:00:50
                                                                 lol. Sounds like you're very happily married then. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:14:54
                                                       I agree with that completely. I never wanted anyone to - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:50:28
                                                            Pretty fair position(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:00:17
                                                  Okay, well we'll disagree. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:43:16
                                                       I never said "most". I said "many" and there is a big - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:45:56
                                                            Most, many... - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:53:38
                                                                 That's much more than semantics. That can be a complete - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:56:08
                                                                      I just don't think "many" or "most" matters. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:58:22
                                                                           I have never disagreed once with the body of this message - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 13:01:53
                                                                                Thanks for the clarification. * - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:15:41
                                             Based on what? (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:39:26
                                                  I truly don't understand this mentality. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:41:07
                                                       RE: I truly don't understand this mentality. - CPA MU - 1/16 17:42:13
                                                            RE: I truly don't understand this mentality. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 17:51:41
                                                       why is it so hard for you to - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:48:41
                                                            I certainly acknowledge it. I'm fine with disagreement. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:52:10
                                                                 Yeah, you're wrong - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:54:06
                                                                      Okay, we disagree. * - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:57:15
                                                       Nobody is denying that a large group of AA feel it was - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:44:26
                                                            They don't feel it's just a couple of events, though. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:49:12
                                   Well all the NSM guys that protested in Charlottesville - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:36:43
          Imagine if they had written that story instead. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 12:13:56
               They did, it was just packaged by an early narrative - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:15:52
                    Yeah, that's basically what I said. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 12:19:29
                         Right. I don't care about the racism stuff. As an MU fan - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:22:00
                              Well, hopefully they don't follow it up next month with - Evenflow MU - 1/16 12:25:33
                                   This is a multi-year process - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:30:10
     Just another liberal hit piece. More evidence of the - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 12:07:29
          LOL......yes, the free press is dangerous! We need to - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:15:18
               RE: LOL......yes, the free press is dangerous! We need to - CPA MU - 1/16 17:29:30
               The free press, brainwashed into the liberal mentality, and - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 12:33:53
                    That is not where the term 'fake news' came from... - TigerTerror STL - 1/16 13:44:14
                         Lol u r so brainwashed(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:17:51
                         You express what you purport to reveal brilliantly. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:24:15
                         RE: That is not where the term 'fake news' came from... - dn3524 MU - 1/16 15:17:33
                              Rally all you want - the EVIL LibTard lemmings are going - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:24:55
     Great piece and I'm rooting for CM. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:05:13
          Go talk to the confederate flag owner on Dodd Dr in Champaig - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:15:21
               So weird. You point out a single (unsubstantiated) citizen's - tjwheeler UI - 1/17 08:20:04
     RE: Hey, the SI piece about Cuonzo is up and it's - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:44:23
          RE: Hey, the SI piece about Cuonzo is up and it's - CPA MU - 1/16 17:31:55
          It is up the writer to maintain their attention. The writer - Barnburner KC - 1/16 12:06:41
               then perhaps they should withhold judgement of the - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:12:13
                    You're clearly a brainwashed liberal. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 12:35:49
          i stopped reading your post after you didn't come up - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:47:01
               RE: i stopped reading your post after you didn't come up - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:05:24
     To be fair, it's quoting Martin's own family. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/16 11:31:06
          It's also relevant that the Department of Justice - TheWildcat STL - 1/16 11:31:56
               Not necessarily, I trust next to nothing that comes out of - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/16 12:51:18
                    Agree (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 13:43:51
                    I heard that.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:42:32
               tj will tell you that's irrelevant. the only relevant data - 90Tiger MU - 1/16 12:32:03
                    Your strawmen go up in flames so easily(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 16:10:07
               That doesn't matter though. The perception of Missouri by a - tgr MU - 1/16 11:36:52
                    Oh for sure, the damage is done - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:38:25
                         I don't know about that. When you actually read it, they - tgr MU - 1/16 11:42:34
                              fill quotas. quality be damned.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:28:15
                              You don't have to convince me - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:47:48
                              Well, hopefully it's far less scary now. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 11:46:56
                    not just black people. people nationally believe that - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:37:50
     Michael Porter is a cancer? That is shocking(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/16 11:27:57
     Ugh - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:23:29
          Wow......there's this old saying - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:39:42
               RE: Wow......there's this old saying - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:42:07
                    RE: Wow......there's this old saying - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:50:27
          Same. nm - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 1/16 11:37:30
          Keep reading(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 11:28:01
               I'll read it fully after I get home from work (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:30:24
                    I had some time, most of it is about Cuonzo - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 11:37:43
          And how scary Mizzou is. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 11:24:39
               Exactly, what a f*cking joke (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:24:54
                    Here's a way to contact him if we wanna tell him how we feel - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 11:28:12
                         that seems like a poor decision(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:33:43
                              Just e-mail him a link to this thread lol (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:36:43
                    i do hope it references the poop swastika though(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:27:04
                         You're in luck, then(nm) - LimerNick MU - 1/16 11:29:08
     I stopped reading pretty quickly, but I am glad that Cuonzo - Evenflow MU - 1/16 11:20:21
          Not at all(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 11:38:24
     Surely Cuonzo sees it's all bull****. If he is as intelligen - TheWildcat STL - 1/16 11:19:27
          My guess is he's more intelligent than you think he is, and - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:47:43
     Yeah I couldn't force myself to read on after the intro(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 11:18:39
          Same. Made it 3 paragraphs in. What a joke. nm - TigerUppercut MU - 1/16 13:47:32
          Show some balls, be strong, and read the - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:41:38
               Weak sauce when you need to lean on political garbage - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 11:50:53
          yep, lazy narrative (nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:20:26




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