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I truly don't understand this mentality.

Posted on: January 16, 2018 at 12:41:07 CT
tjwheeler UI
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Why is it so hard to acknowledge the concerns of AA students on campus?

What does it hurt?

Why, as a white man, belittle it and imply their concerns aren't reflective of all AA students or aren't valid?

Edited by tjwheeler at 12:43:37 on 01/16/18
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Hey, the SI piece about Cuonzo is up and it's - LimerNick MU - 1/16 11:13:33
     If Cuonzo is really here to 'stand up to racists' then it's - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:29:00
          you certainly are an expert on stupid - Jeff85 MU - 1/16 18:13:19
               Good argument - very cogent.(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 18:28:42
          Fail. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:31:24
               The irony is it means he's part of the problem. He (and - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:33:18
                    RE: The irony is it means he's part of the problem. He (and - CPA MU - 1/16 16:51:29
                         I seriously doubt that if Cuonzo had said in his interview - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 17:01:06
                    RE: The irony is it means he's part of the problem. He (and - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 15:39:24
                         Meh. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:50:48
     The false narrative almost overshadows - JG MU - 1/16 14:59:34
     What mindset do you bring with you when you step on campus? - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 14:45:39
          the parking sucks and I do not care about anything other tha - Jeff85 MU - 1/16 18:11:02
     I finally gave up my SI subscription last year - TigerUppercut MU - 1/16 13:51:52
     What I would love to see, from our Journalism school - jumbo73 MU - 1/16 12:37:43
          No, instead we get the Alumni magazine with a photoshoot - Tigrrrr! MU - 1/16 16:56:23
          As long as those AA students agree with you. - zodiac6 JC - 1/16 14:17:33
               Nope - it's clearly their job to act as the PR wing of the - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:10:03
               What about other races that are choosing to go elsewhere - Barnburner KC - 1/16 14:31:32
          i'd recommend actually reading the dozens of articles - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 12:56:12
               lets see 24+ links. I googled. Came up with nada.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:11:50
                    The Missourian and KBIA have done great work on the topic - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:12:43
                         RE: The Missourian and KBIA have done great work on the topic - CPA MU - 1/16 16:56:18
                         so 2? yet I don't see any links.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:13:31
                              then you aren't looking - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:14:58
                                   of course not because you can't defend your claim. You lied - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:15:54
                                        lol - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:16:07
                                             Stick to the lie. Don't let up.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:17:37
     that definitely paints Cuonzo in a bad light. Sad.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:19:37
          disagree - Jeff85 MU - 1/16 18:07:21
          jesus you go out of your way to look really dumb on this - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 12:54:00
               you love you some fake narratives. There was nothing to be - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:09:44
                    and for some people anger-inducing - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:11:46
                         They were completely valid..... - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:12:59
                              and you continue - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:15:58
                                   how am I wrong? All you seem to have is ad homenum - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:16:55
                                        you claimed the article made Martin look bad - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 14:17:46
                                             how so? I provided evidence. You provided nothing.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:52:46
                                                  Pretty funny that you consider what you provided as evidence - Cosmo MU - 1/16 15:11:26
               Hey but he has a contrarian point of view - Cosmo MU - 1/16 13:16:12
                    He is entitled to his opinion, but it his opinion - DevilsAdvocate MU - 1/16 13:25:10
                         and it typically is a really dumb opinion - MizzouAstro MU - 1/16 13:46:48
               He's a joke haha(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 12:55:43
                    No $hit(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:45:35
          Wrong (nm) - YounGun*TC* DU - 1/16 12:50:58
          You mean because he persevered and succeeded rather - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:24:06
               That's what 90% of the article is about - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:34:44
          How so?(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:20:59
               He bought into the michael brown lies. - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:26:14
                    RE: He bought into the michael brown lies. - CPA MU - 1/16 17:27:24
                    We can not all be like you(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 1/16 13:17:48
                         I'd hope not. basketball wouldn't be much fun to watch.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 14:14:10
                    Which lies is he quoted as "buying into" - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:34:01
                         RE: Which lies is he quoted as "buying into" - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:44:32
                              i hope it was the writer being an idiot, not Martin saying t - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:12:01
                              I thought I had you pegged, now I know I do. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:48:17
                              Yeah, that Cuonzo is a real bad egg. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/16 12:52:39
                              he is a father, brown died and he was mad. - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 12:48:05
                              There's no quote there - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:47:15
                                   Exactly(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:48:50
                    I suspect you are like most of us on this board, who would - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:33:13
                         many people outside of STL believe the lies. - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:43:01
     When my friends or coworkers show a lack of effort - KCSwede MU - 1/16 12:14:16
     I take a different message from that article - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:12:48
          I think... - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:18:47
               RE: I think... - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:20:20
               Cottonballs. in 2010. - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 14:52:50
                    says the white man(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 16:07:34
                         Your response suggests that you think a white man can't - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 16:22:14
                              Incorrect assumption. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 16:36:06
                                   Funny you think you are in a position to make that call - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 18:09:44
                                        And, here we go again.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 18:10:57
               RE: I think... - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:35:47
                    In many places, yes. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:36:48
                         Something middleton said in the article - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:38:19
               No offense, but you have no idea what it's like on - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:33:37
               The majority of the time the trouble makers both black and - MU-TULSA MU - 1/16 12:30:38
               I mean I guess that is an issue. Not the real issue though - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:23:16
                    RE: I mean I guess that is an issue. Not the real issue though - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:26:23
                         Like I said, not really a topic of interest for me and not - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:38:16
                         You know jack and *&^% about MU and just want to - MU-TULSA MU - 1/16 12:32:41
                         do you have a link for that data point, btw, the one r - 90Tiger MU - 1/16 12:32:37
                              Obviously, referring to the protests on campus* - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:34:14
                                   One radical organization stages a protest and sucks in a few - MU-TULSA MU - 1/16 13:35:30
                                        And we wonder why AA protested.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:46:01
                                             RE: And we wonder why AA protested.(nm) - CPA MU - 1/16 17:34:55
                                                  I'm stunned a basketball player would get special treatment - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 18:10:27
                                             They were fed false information. The student body president - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:00:52
                                                  Your position isn't surprising.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 15:21:36
                                                       My position is that when lies are admitted, I accept the - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:26:02
                                                            RE: My position is that when lies are admitted, I accept the - CPA MU - 1/16 17:43:47
                                   as the majority? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:37:26
                         tj, I hate to ruin your go-to argument, but stating a group - 90Tiger MU - 1/16 12:30:08
                              Thanks, but you don't ruin it at all. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:33:15
                                   It is open to debate, as to the actual events claimed, being - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:03:57
                                   "The AA students and AA athletes who protested" - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:36:43
                                        Disagree. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:38:35
                                             Then why did the basketball team refuse to get involved, and - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:06:09
                                                  Sigh(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 15:21:55
                                             I know first hand that you're wrong. - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:41:05
                                                  Sometimes people just want to protest - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 12:45:11
                                                       There are proximity issues in a marriage which are not a - MizzouTigerz MU - 1/16 15:11:31
                                                       And for the good of your marriage, it's also helpful to - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:56:24
                                                            Of course - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 13:00:50
                                                                 lol. Sounds like you're very happily married then. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:14:54
                                                       I agree with that completely. I never wanted anyone to - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:50:28
                                                            Pretty fair position(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:00:17
                                                  Okay, well we'll disagree. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:43:16
                                                       I never said "most". I said "many" and there is a big - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:45:56
                                                            Most, many... - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:53:38
                                                                 That's much more than semantics. That can be a complete - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:56:08
                                                                      I just don't think "many" or "most" matters. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:58:22
                                                                           I have never disagreed once with the body of this message - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 13:01:53
                                                                                Thanks for the clarification. * - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 13:15:41
                                             Based on what? (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:39:26
                                                  I truly don't understand this mentality. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:41:07
                                                       RE: I truly don't understand this mentality. - CPA MU - 1/16 17:42:13
                                                            RE: I truly don't understand this mentality. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 17:51:41
                                                       why is it so hard for you to - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:48:41
                                                            I certainly acknowledge it. I'm fine with disagreement. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:52:10
                                                                 Yeah, you're wrong - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:54:06
                                                                      Okay, we disagree. * - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:57:15
                                                       Nobody is denying that a large group of AA feel it was - kmawv8 MU - 1/16 12:44:26
                                                            They don't feel it's just a couple of events, though. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:49:12
                                   Well all the NSM guys that protested in Charlottesville - Cosmo MU - 1/16 12:36:43
          Imagine if they had written that story instead. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 12:13:56
               They did, it was just packaged by an early narrative - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:15:52
                    Yeah, that's basically what I said. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 12:19:29
                         Right. I don't care about the racism stuff. As an MU fan - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:22:00
                              Well, hopefully they don't follow it up next month with - Evenflow MU - 1/16 12:25:33
                                   This is a multi-year process - FIJItiger MU - 1/16 12:30:10
     Just another liberal hit piece. More evidence of the - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 12:07:29
          LOL......yes, the free press is dangerous! We need to - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:15:18
               RE: LOL......yes, the free press is dangerous! We need to - CPA MU - 1/16 17:29:30
               The free press, brainwashed into the liberal mentality, and - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 12:33:53
                    That is not where the term 'fake news' came from... - TigerTerror STL - 1/16 13:44:14
                         Lol u r so brainwashed(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:17:51
                         You express what you purport to reveal brilliantly. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:24:15
                         RE: That is not where the term 'fake news' came from... - dn3524 MU - 1/16 15:17:33
                              Rally all you want - the EVIL LibTard lemmings are going - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 15:24:55
     Great piece and I'm rooting for CM. - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 12:05:13
          Go talk to the confederate flag owner on Dodd Dr in Champaig - TigerFan92 MU - 1/16 23:15:21
               So weird. You point out a single (unsubstantiated) citizen's - tjwheeler UI - 1/17 08:20:04
     RE: Hey, the SI piece about Cuonzo is up and it's - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:44:23
          RE: Hey, the SI piece about Cuonzo is up and it's - CPA MU - 1/16 17:31:55
          It is up the writer to maintain their attention. The writer - Barnburner KC - 1/16 12:06:41
               then perhaps they should withhold judgement of the - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:12:13
                    You're clearly a brainwashed liberal. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 1/16 12:35:49
          i stopped reading your post after you didn't come up - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:47:01
               RE: i stopped reading your post after you didn't come up - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 12:05:24
     To be fair, it's quoting Martin's own family. - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/16 11:31:06
          It's also relevant that the Department of Justice - TheWildcat STL - 1/16 11:31:56
               Not necessarily, I trust next to nothing that comes out of - Mizzmi27 MU - 1/16 12:51:18
                    Agree (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 13:43:51
                    I heard that.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 1/16 13:42:32
               tj will tell you that's irrelevant. the only relevant data - 90Tiger MU - 1/16 12:32:03
                    Your strawmen go up in flames so easily(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 1/16 16:10:07
               That doesn't matter though. The perception of Missouri by a - tgr MU - 1/16 11:36:52
                    Oh for sure, the damage is done - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:38:25
                         I don't know about that. When you actually read it, they - tgr MU - 1/16 11:42:34
                              fill quotas. quality be damned.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 1/16 12:28:15
                              You don't have to convince me - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:47:48
                              Well, hopefully it's far less scary now. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 11:46:56
                    not just black people. people nationally believe that - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:37:50
     Michael Porter is a cancer? That is shocking(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 1/16 11:27:57
     Ugh - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:23:29
          Wow......there's this old saying - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:39:42
               RE: Wow......there's this old saying - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:42:07
                    RE: Wow......there's this old saying - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:50:27
          Same. nm - Civil-E-Tiger MU - 1/16 11:37:30
          Keep reading(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 11:28:01
               I'll read it fully after I get home from work (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:30:24
                    I had some time, most of it is about Cuonzo - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 11:37:43
          And how scary Mizzou is. - Evenflow MU - 1/16 11:24:39
               Exactly, what a f*cking joke (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:24:54
                    Here's a way to contact him if we wanna tell him how we feel - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 11:28:12
                         that seems like a poor decision(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:33:43
                              Just e-mail him a link to this thread lol (nm) - Cosmo MU - 1/16 11:36:43
                    i do hope it references the poop swastika though(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:27:04
                         You're in luck, then(nm) - LimerNick MU - 1/16 11:29:08
     I stopped reading pretty quickly, but I am glad that Cuonzo - Evenflow MU - 1/16 11:20:21
          Not at all(nm) - BOILERTIGER MU - 1/16 11:38:24
     Surely Cuonzo sees it's all bull****. If he is as intelligen - TheWildcat STL - 1/16 11:19:27
          My guess is he's more intelligent than you think he is, and - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:47:43
     Yeah I couldn't force myself to read on after the intro(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 11:18:39
          Same. Made it 3 paragraphs in. What a joke. nm - TigerUppercut MU - 1/16 13:47:32
          Show some balls, be strong, and read the - MNTIGER MU - 1/16 11:41:38
               Weak sauce when you need to lean on political garbage - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/16 11:50:53
          yep, lazy narrative (nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/16 11:20:26




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