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Posted on: January 4, 2018 at 12:48:29 CT
MizzouTigerz
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hi, I'm pickle. I'm an anarchist and lover of liberty...AMA!
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:21:36
the recent swatting incident
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SwampTiger
MU
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1/4 13:01:27
The ones who committed a crime
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:05:40
So calling up the swatter to induce him to call in the swat
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 13:09:09
would hiring a hit man be a crime?
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SwampTiger
MU
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1/4 13:08:52
No, hiring a hit man is not a crime (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:10:03
If you believe in anarchy, what *is* a crime?
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 15:10:55
I gotta say, that incident is a confounding one
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 13:03:42
I've gone back and forth on that
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:07:00
Step 1
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MizzouTigerz
MU
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1/4 12:48:29
Do you have a question? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:03:56
What do you do to advance your anarchist values?
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Grasslands
MU
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1/4 12:46:07
I discuss them where and when appropriate
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:01:54
I still don't know what you do about those that don't follow
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 12:44:25
RE: I still don't know what you do about those that don't follow
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:51:06
so tribes, North America prior to the arrival of the Europe(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:02:53
What? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:04:15
Native Americains lived in tribes much the way you
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:09:27
when did pickle talk about tribes? (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 13:49:20
Not in this thread, but a couple of years ago...
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 14:56:08
he didn't, I'm just trying to relate some historical
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:56:17
he didn't describe a society. you keep using your future-vis
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 14:07:36
i believe mankind is inherently good and cooperative, and
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:19:07
I didn't state any society requirements
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:26:40
"societies based upon voluntary relationships and exchanges"
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:30:12
Why do you keep cutting off the sentence?
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:34:38
you discribe a society that you believe would fix the system
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:37:49
No I don't (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 15:41:33
you keep saying it doesn't exist as if you're being
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 14:20:48
you claim he didn't describe a society, I claim he did(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:26:45
??? I don't know where you got that from
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:13:24
tell me this doesn't describe early tribal life:
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:22:40
That doesn't describe "early tribal life" (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:25:17
sure it does:
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:35:06
It doesn't. Early tribal life were under big man societies
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:51:21
'There would be means for dispute resolution'
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 12:57:33
EMAW!
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MIZZOUowns
SEC
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1/4 12:34:11
'compromised since birth, not by choice'
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 12:32:49
If government was eliminated
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cnk
ATL
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1/4 12:28:49
well they already are part of society
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:34:13
what mechanism would stop them from being aggressive
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cnk
ATL
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1/4 12:41:08
competing groups of security forces
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/4 13:02:49
armed individuals
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:44:15
so Shane would come back and provide justice(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 12:46:58
I don't know who Shane is (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:07:22
you've never seen the movie SHANE?
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:11:11
Yes, I've seen the movie Shane
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:14:00
you see Shane came in and made sure those
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:20:25
RE: you see Shane came in and made sure those
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:26:31
your utopia society is fictional too(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:35:55
it's your fiction, not pickle's that you're arguing about he
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 13:54:44
so this society exists somewhere? cause if it doesn't -
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:57:40
again, it's YOUR fiction, not pickle's. He isn't layingout
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 14:08:47
he drew the picture "i believe mankind is inherently good
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:20:45
That's not fiction, that's fact (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:27:46
your belief does not make it fact(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:29:26
That's the first correct thing you've said today (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 15:42:05
odd, my entire 50+ years on earth have been 99.999995%
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 14:21:41
well, I was in construction for 33 years, so as long as it
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:25:13
I think you misunderstand (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:30:04
I don't advocate utopia
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:52:55
you left out the part about believing in utopia
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 12:39:57
'They wouldn't last long being aggressive and violent'
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 12:35:57
lol - baltimore is a gvmt example. man you're dumb, Jeff (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 13:55:47
You don't seem to be following the conversation very well...
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 15:45:38
Looks like two instances of failed govts. (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 12:40:43
Perhaps, but even so, his contention that
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 12:47:32
RE: Perhaps, but even so, his contention that
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 12:52:05
RE: Why should we believe that 'this time is different'
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 13:06:22
I agree that moralities are less refined than 50 years ago
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 13:13:25
'far less capital would be directed to building weapons of
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 14:16:47
there was no gov't at the dawn of mankind, but weapons were
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:45:46
There were no societies at the dawn of mankind
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:57:04
of course there were extended families were societies
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:04:48
there were no societies at the dawn of mankind
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:31:02
a family isn't a society? I believe it is and has been
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:33:07
and places where many people aren't
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 12:45:59
Recognizing what you just wrote, it would seem ever more
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 12:52:57
far less likely than mob rule(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:12:26
I guess we should just ignore all present and historical
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 13:16:09
Ignore WWII and the atomic bombing of Japan (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:32:08
why? if your society can develop roads, cars, electronics
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 13:38:18
It's your argument. You said it would be less likely
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:54:28
when has a governmentless society EVER ended
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:06:14
Gvmt is mob rule (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:31:30
I don't disagree, but no govt ends in mob rule as well(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:33:50
isn't democracy defined as the will of the majority? that's
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90Tiger
MU
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1/4 14:10:49
did I disagree? My point is gov't or no gov't - MOB RULE(nm)
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tigerinhogtown
STL
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1/4 14:22:27
That wasn't your point and you've contradicted yourself
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pickle
MU
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1/4 14:33:23
Partially answered here:
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ummmm
MU
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1/4 13:39:02
Gvmt is mob rule (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 13:15:18
they could join private "security forces"
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Ragnar Danneskjold
MU
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1/4 12:32:56
No one has ever told you that. Why the need to lie? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:35:36
Your liberty has been compromised by your own bad choices.
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RHAYWORTH
MU
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1/4 12:23:21
Do you have a question? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:28:09
RE: Do you have a question? (nm)
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JeffB
MU
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1/4 12:34:40
Wonderful, now what about the Reptilians?(nm)
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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1/4 12:22:45
I don't know what you're talking about (nm)
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:27:47
Go blow a goat (nm)
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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1/4 12:21:57
Any topic, Tigrrr. Government, politics, liberty, economics,
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pickle
MU
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1/4 12:29:54
Ok
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Tigrrrr!
MU
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1/4 12:59:54