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Who cares if there are mass murders or World Wars?

Posted on: October 11, 2017 at 16:46:28 CT
JeffB MU
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Those were the two examples I gave.

"Many Christians have killed on behalf of God over the years in various Holy Wars."

I think you are painting with way too broad of a brush here. I think that line of logic is along the lines of "Police have committed attrocities against people over the centuries... therefore we should not have police." ... or as pickle would have it, you could substitute "government" for "police" in the above sentence.

To be fair you have to look at the individual groups involved, the historical context and true and accurate facts as to what actually happened. That takes time and effort, but it is essential if you want to discover the truth. It would be hard to do justice to a discussion on this in a single discussion forum post, but suffice it to say that you are way oversimplifying things and arriving at flawed conclusions because of it.

"You even advocate the killing of terrorists and their families.

This is not the first time you have falsely attributed beliefs to me that I do not hold. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume that you are getting me confused with someone else, but you really should be more carefull when making such assertions.

What makes your objective code superior to others?

That it is the moral code given to us by God Himself, Creator of all that is.

where we differe is that you want to force your objective code on others. I do not wish do to that.

You keep saying that, but have not answered my question... Does that mean that you do not think that there should be any police or enforcement of laws against murder, rape, robbery etc.?

Edited by JeffB at 16:46:53 on 10/11/17
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     If you're intellectually curious read - Macgrantt MU - 10/11 16:33:21
          Thank you. That looks like an interesting read. - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:26:41
               good video thank you too - Macgrantt MU - 10/11 17:40:26
                    You're welcome. Btw, the OP might be a little confusing - JeffB MU - 10/11 18:38:20
     That i think, it the $64 question and its answer pervades - hokie VT - 10/11 14:14:30
          'But government is necessary to identify and enforce a moral - JeffB MU - 10/11 14:51:02
               Fair points but the hitler example does not work imo. In - hokie VT - 10/11 15:28:20
                    Hitler was democratically elected, I believe. Certainly - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:21:26
                         So....your contribution - meatiger MU - 10/11 16:27:47
                              No. I am pointing out examples of the consequences of - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:52:40
          There is nothing unreasonable or unfair about saying slavery - pickle MU - 10/11 14:26:27
               If there is no God, there is nothing unfair in saying that - JeffB MU - 10/11 14:59:04
          Do we really have this anymore - meatiger MU - 10/11 14:18:12
               If there is no God, then everything is subjective. What is - JeffB MU - 10/11 15:03:59
                    Preach on - meatiger MU - 10/11 15:07:53
                         Are you an anarchist? Or do you think that there is a - JeffB MU - 10/11 15:40:30
                              One other thing - meatiger MU - 10/11 15:56:15
                                   You did not answer the questions in the post you replied to - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:35:56
                              Maybe because you have guns behind your "morals" (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 15:55:17
                                   You have guns behind your morals, no? - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:37:35
                                        no, i don't (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 19:04:32
                              I say the same thing on Pickle's moral code - meatiger MU - 10/11 15:55:04
                                   Actually, pickle is against governments other than private - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:48:44
                                        goddamn you are a ****ing idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 19:05:11
                                             How articulate you are... even more than normal. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/11 21:03:57
     Christians say that the objective moral code that people - JeffB MU - 10/11 13:54:52
          So...that gives you the right - meatiger MU - 10/11 14:03:35
     Not sure how you can get to an "objective" - meatiger MU - 10/11 13:52:20
          God is the source of all things, including an objective - JeffB MU - 10/11 14:02:00
               Nm - TigerMatt MU - 10/11 16:43:41
                    Can You Prove God Exists? - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:56:52
                         There is no proof and no evidence (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 17:16:59
                              You are ignoring the evidence and logic. - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:55:25
                         Twenty Arguments For The Existence Of God - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:06:59
                              it takes a stupid person not to believe #3 (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 10/11 19:13:01
               Who cares if there is chaos to some degree - meatiger MU - 10/11 14:06:15
                    Who cares if there are mass murders or World Wars? - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:46:28




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