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If there is no God, then everything is subjective. What is

Posted on: October 11, 2017 at 15:03:59 CT
JeffB MU
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immoral to you, is a moral imperative to someone else. In the end it all comes down to a matter of "might makes right" in such a scenario. Whoever can force their will upon the others "wins".

But if there is a God, then there is an objective moral code by which all actions can be objectively measured and evaluated.

There is a God.

There is an objective moral code.

Fortunately, that objective moral code is written in our hearts, though somewhat obscured because of sin.

Unfortunately, not all accept or live by that moral code, and we have a propensity to selfishly violate it.
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Q. Is there an objective standard for morality? - JeffB MU - 10/11 13:39:48
     If you're intellectually curious read - Macgrantt MU - 10/11 16:33:21
          Thank you. That looks like an interesting read. - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:26:41
               good video thank you too - Macgrantt MU - 10/11 17:40:26
                    You're welcome. Btw, the OP might be a little confusing - JeffB MU - 10/11 18:38:20
     That i think, it the $64 question and its answer pervades - hokie VT - 10/11 14:14:30
          'But government is necessary to identify and enforce a moral - JeffB MU - 10/11 14:51:02
               Fair points but the hitler example does not work imo. In - hokie VT - 10/11 15:28:20
                    Hitler was democratically elected, I believe. Certainly - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:21:26
                         So....your contribution - meatiger MU - 10/11 16:27:47
                              No. I am pointing out examples of the consequences of - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:52:40
          There is nothing unreasonable or unfair about saying slavery - pickle MU - 10/11 14:26:27
               If there is no God, there is nothing unfair in saying that - JeffB MU - 10/11 14:59:04
          Do we really have this anymore - meatiger MU - 10/11 14:18:12
               If there is no God, then everything is subjective. What is - JeffB MU - 10/11 15:03:59
                    Preach on - meatiger MU - 10/11 15:07:53
                         Are you an anarchist? Or do you think that there is a - JeffB MU - 10/11 15:40:30
                              One other thing - meatiger MU - 10/11 15:56:15
                                   You did not answer the questions in the post you replied to - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:35:56
                              Maybe because you have guns behind your "morals" (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 15:55:17
                                   You have guns behind your morals, no? - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:37:35
                                        no, i don't (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 19:04:32
                              I say the same thing on Pickle's moral code - meatiger MU - 10/11 15:55:04
                                   Actually, pickle is against governments other than private - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:48:44
                                        goddamn you are a ****ing idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 19:05:11
                                             How articulate you are... even more than normal. (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/11 21:03:57
     Christians say that the objective moral code that people - JeffB MU - 10/11 13:54:52
          So...that gives you the right - meatiger MU - 10/11 14:03:35
     Not sure how you can get to an "objective" - meatiger MU - 10/11 13:52:20
          God is the source of all things, including an objective - JeffB MU - 10/11 14:02:00
               Nm - TigerMatt MU - 10/11 16:43:41
                    Can You Prove God Exists? - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:56:52
                         There is no proof and no evidence (nm) - pickle MU - 10/11 17:16:59
                              You are ignoring the evidence and logic. - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:55:25
                         Twenty Arguments For The Existence Of God - JeffB MU - 10/11 17:06:59
                              it takes a stupid person not to believe #3 (nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 10/11 19:13:01
               Who cares if there is chaos to some degree - meatiger MU - 10/11 14:06:15
                    Who cares if there are mass murders or World Wars? - JeffB MU - 10/11 16:46:28




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