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everyone's favorite topic, revisiting APR

Posted on: April 11, 2017 at 09:24:08 CT
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Just to demonstrate how little grasp journalists covering the team have of the topic when you take their statements that MU is still in good shape, lets analyze the article the Columbia Tribune put out today.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/sports/mu/mu-s-recruiting-is-group-effort/article_d4e5a0c0-8b08-56de-8775-28c30dc57f81.html

"Missouri’s APR has been dragged down by the 851 score posted in the 2013-14 academic year — Frank Haith’s final season. This is the last year that score will count on MU’s multiyear average."

Our current 4 year score is compiled from the following seasons:

2015 -- 976
2014 -- 851
2013 -- 960
2012 -- 978


This can be confirmed here:
https://web1.ncaa.org/maps/aprRelease.jsp

So next season the 978 score of 2012 will drop off, and we will replace it with a 2016 score. The 851 score of 2014 is no where close to ceasing to impact our multiyear avg as claimed.

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Martin said Missouri could withstand another transfer this year. “I think we can lose three points, if I’m not mistaken,” he said.

Again, the results and impacts of this offseason in terms of impact to the APR are far off. He is talking about our single year score in isolation, not in relation to its 4 year impact. Its 2016 that will next be impacting our score. In that period we lost the following:

Wes Clark – Buffalo, but too late to qualify for waiver
D’Angelo Allen - not enrolled anywhere
Martavian Payne - NAIA
Tremaine Isabell - Drexel
Namon Wright - Colorado
Jakeenan Gant - Louisiana Lafayette

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"Schools receive up to two points per player per semester — one for staying in school and one for staying eligible. A player who leaves and isn’t eligible counts zero points. A player who leaves with at least a 2.6 grade-point average scores one point."

Assuming 12 scholarship players, that equates to 48 possible points each season. Getting 45 out of 48 points results in a score of 937, but getting only 44 out of 48 would be a score of 916. Schools are required to keep their 4 year score above 930. Even assuming all 6 of the players listed above left with > 2.6 GPA (which reportedly is not the case) that would be 6 lost points from our 2016 score. Way too many to stay anywhere close to the acceptable mark, particularly with a 978 dropping off from 2012 from our 4 year avg.

Then on top of that in 2017 we have already lost 3 players to transfer and may potentially have more. It will be when we tabulate the season AFTER that in 2018 the 851 score will finally drop off: 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018. So we are actually 3 APR reporting years away from that, and most likely will be tabulating a 2016 score that is even worse than it anyway.

Edited by FIJItiger at 09:51:32 on 04/11/17
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everyone's favorite topic, revisiting APR - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:24:08
     Here's my math and it shows Cuonzo is correct. - TB Tiger MU - 4/11 10:47:04
          Martin isn't the coach in 2015-16 - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:49:42
     Something is odd about the NCAA math - GapDaddy MU - 4/11 10:07:18
          I believe that is due - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:09:56
               Interesting. 2nd Semester (Winter) is a question mark... - GapDaddy MU - 4/11 10:21:45
                    Here is a graphic from the NCAA: - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:26:17
                         hahahaha(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 4/11 10:31:10
     Using the link you provided, the APR numbers I found are - Domin8 MU - 4/11 09:59:25
          Those are the multiyear scores - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:01:39
               Gotcha - Domin8 MU - 4/11 10:41:28
     CM said it is fine. he knows. (nm) - ajpe53 MU - 4/11 09:54:40
     that's a good look, from a macro level - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/11 09:54:19
          FYI, that would be a micro level analysis - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:56:44
     So, just to clarify. Our head coach and journalists that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/11 09:53:34
          You must have missed the last quoted piece of text. Do you - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/11 09:59:02
               I think they are ill informed/mis-informed (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:59:46
                    LMAO yeah some message board jabroni knows better than - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 4/11 10:06:05
                    But you aren't? What were the GPA's of the kids that - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/11 10:02:10
                         GPA is 50% of the equation - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:06:12
                              Or as has been explained to you before. You are quoting - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/11 10:09:50
                                   Its possible. And its also possible that MU simply - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:12:42
                                        Wow. So that is your out when you are proven wrong? - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/11 10:19:21
                                             Yes, that will be my position. If tabulated accurately it - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:25:03
                                   But but, he googled and stuff!(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 4/11 10:12:15
          Yes, that appears to be the case (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:55:46
               See new thread above - DevilsAdvocate MU - 4/11 09:56:15
     Question on the averages - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 4/11 09:46:19
          No, APR is a 4 year running total - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:48:31
               Right I understand it is a 4 year average but - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 4/11 09:51:49
                    I see what you are saying, but that would mean there - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:54:53
                         Agreed and that's why I'm confused - Mizzou_Fanatic12 MU - 4/11 09:56:53
     Tell us again how long the rebuild will take(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/11 09:43:28
          I suspect 2 or 3 years, but I can not foresee the future (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:45:42
               Lol, some change in tone from a month ago - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/11 10:01:45
     Soooooo do you think Sterk and Martin are not smart enough - Diamonm MU - 4/11 09:41:49
          I think Sterk is. I've not heard him comment on it at all - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:43:54
     Okay so what is point?(nm) - DevilsAdvocate MU - 4/11 09:40:21
          Just clarifying. As you can see below, there is still - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:44:21
     How about a bridge story, Mr. Killington?(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 4/11 09:39:54
     Porter Jr. would not have come to MU if post-season ban - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/11 09:37:13
          You mean if they were told MU was facing a postseason ban - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:40:14
     what happens if the 4 yr average falls under 930? (nm) - phrejd MU - 4/11 09:31:33
          Can include postseason bans - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:33:12
          DEATH and DESTRUCTION (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 4/11 09:32:11
               great. Cuonzo got Tennessee on probation, now he's going to - phrejd MU - 4/11 09:38:53
     no, just you're favorite topic - MizzouAstro MU - 4/11 09:29:20
          Everyone should care. This is just as important to the - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/11 09:46:44
          That is why I am posting about it - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:34:41
               No, not an issue. Move on.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/11 09:35:50
     Cuonzo yesterday said Mizzou can handle - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/11 09:28:04
          Agree, I included his quote in the post - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:32:13
               lol. just quit(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 4/11 09:44:16
               Right, the guy that gets paid to deal with APR - wu-tangtiger MU - 4/11 09:41:33
                    Ok. Well it will suck when I am right (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:42:45
                         Will you leave if you are wrong?(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/11 09:44:20
                              No (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:45:04
                                   We all wish you would, you're a moran(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 4/11 09:52:36
               Just shut up. We should be more concerned with that fat - Uncle John MU - 4/11 09:34:48
               or your math is off(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/11 09:32:55
                    Can you elaborate? How is my math off? - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:33:52
                         I don't know. But i'm going to trust someone who actually - MizzouAstro MU - 4/11 09:35:40
                              Why? Given that I just concretely demonstrated that - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:37:10
                                   Because you have no experience dealing with APR - MizzouAstro MU - 4/11 09:38:15
                                        You think that NCAA website that posts official APR scores - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:42:00
                                             WE haven't? You realize that someone from the school may - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 4/11 10:05:49
                                                  No, then they would know concretely we had big issues - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 10:07:38
                                             i'd imagine he knows how to do it(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/11 09:43:55
                                                  Except for the direct evidence that he doesn't, I guess(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 4/11 09:44:42
                                                       or not(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/11 09:44:53
                                        You can't explain to dumb people that they're dumb - Gaseous Clay MU - 4/11 09:40:31
                                             lol(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 4/11 09:53:14
                                             You got that right!(nm) - Uncle John MU - 4/11 09:42:09




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