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But there is a difference between immigrants and refugees.

Posted on: February 1, 2017 at 10:36:50 CT
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Immigrants are making a choice and usually trying to better their lives. Most realize that entails hard work and sacrifice and are a boon to our society.

Refugees are a different story and need to be evaluated differently and on a case by case basis. Most did not choose to leave and many of those coming from the mid east do not have the cultural tools to assimilate and become and asset to our country.

My personal belief is that many would eventually become American in every way. Unfortunately many would be left behind. Bad things tend to happen when Muslims from that part of the world become disillusioned.
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Why I don't want any refugees. They don't get jobs. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 09:58:25
     And addly enough, them GETTING jobs is also a reason - GA Tiger MU - 2/1 11:31:24
          You are ignorant (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 12:08:30
     They deserve to be supported the rest of their lives - mu7176grad MU - 2/1 11:05:36
     Here is what I don't get - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:28:38
          Thats great. And in your either/or tradition are you - GA Tiger MU - 2/1 11:32:55
               RE: Thats great. And in your either/or tradition are you - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:35:27
                    Is a bias always either a negative or wrong?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/1 13:05:10
          That's fine once they are vetted properly. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:38:27
               Who says they haven't been vetted properly already? You?(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:41:33
                    as a point of fact, in our government, the executive branch - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:45:55
                         Because the countries chosen make little sense - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:59:46
                              they actually make perfect sense - FootballRefugee MU - 2/1 11:34:15
                                   Nothing practical about - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:36:54
                                        "made up problem"? what problem has been "made up"? - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:40:32
                                             RE: "made up problem"? what problem has been "made up"? - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:45:23
                                                  They are also increasing vetting of their compatability with - Tiger@chicago MU - 2/1 12:39:07
                                                  your ignorance is pretty overwhelming, meat. as FR pointed - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 12:11:38
                                                       RE: your ignorance is pretty overwhelming, meat. as FR pointed - meatiger MU - 2/1 12:13:55
                                                  we know they are targeting refugee programs - FootballRefugee MU - 2/1 11:59:25
                                                       some of these came here as kids - meatiger MU - 2/1 12:13:01
                              That list was created by Homeland Security for the Obama - DHighlander KC - 2/1 11:09:14
               None of your business (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:40:53
               RE: That's fine once they are vetted properly. (nm) - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:40:19
                    I think this is the article I was thinking of - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:52:30
                    read this - do you seek information or just deny its existen - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:52:05
                         does it say how many of those were refugees?(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:57:07
                              did you read it? I don't think so. the point of the matter - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:03:36
                                   I didn't read the Inspector General Report it linked to - cnk ATL - 2/1 11:09:50
                                   you dont' get it - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:06:35
                                        oh, no, you've stated that there "is no problem", that this - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:41:27
                    why do you persist in ignoring the fundamental purpose - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:48:10
                         The preamble of the EO - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:53:28
                              nothing was "shut down", meat. thousands and thousands - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:55:39
                    the process can take up to 2 years - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:46:58
                    it isn't necessary that I do. - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:46:28
                    I think they jumped the gun this past weekend... - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:43:20
                         yeah, effen rolled it out worse than obamacare. nm - justwinbaby KC - 2/1 10:54:01
                         but it is more than a pause - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:46:36
                              RE: but it is more than a pause - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:50:30
                                   RE: but it is more than a pause - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:54:56
                                        that's old news, btw, and GC/visa holders were never - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:42:34
                                             3 days is old news - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:46:41
                              no mean, the GC issue was resolved and never intended. - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:48:49
                    I think the evidence has to be in the affirmative. Do you - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:42:11
                         What evidence? - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:42:51
                              There have been numerous intelligence officials who have - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:49:45
                                   And the switch is occuring - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:48:04
                                   correct, but if meat can remain willfully ignorant of these - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:43:22
               that's how the system for refugees currently works(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:38:51
          if I remember right, it's a Catholic charity that does a lot - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:32:09
               I think there are various charity groups - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:33:52
                    yes, there are several groups - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:35:33
     just think of what they could do with a bunch of giant hamst - justwinbaby KC - 2/1 10:26:51
     RE: Why I don't want any refugees. They don't get jobs. - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:09:39
     so do you enslave them and force them to work? - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:04:58
          RE: so do you enslave them and force them to work? - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:23:10
               that doesn't appear to be the case for refugees historically - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:27:44
                    RE: that doesn't appear to be the case for refugees historically - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:33:51
                         That's what the study was looking at - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:44:22
                              RE: That's what the study was looking at - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:53:31
          I don't think Rhay is suggesting enslavement. But is it - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:14:58
               We have millions of Americans who don't have the skills - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:19:57
                    RE: We have millions of Americans who don't have the skills - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:06:22
                    so you want to bring in a bunch more, right? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:33:08
                         It's not up to you (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:45:46
                              RE: It's not up to you (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:12:45
                    So is bringing in more the answer? Americans that do not - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:23:39
                         I'm saying that immigrants/refugees will work - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:28:09
                              But there is a difference between immigrants and refugees. - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:36:50
                                   That's not correct on refugees. - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/1 10:47:49
                                   Lol - pickle MU - 2/1 10:41:50
                                        For someone that pathologically post to this forum it is - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:44:18
               there are resources for refugees in the US - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:19:18
               I shouldn't have to say it. No slaves. Anywhere. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:17:06
               The same point can be made about many groups of Americans - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:16:42
                    Most, not all but most of them paid into that system their - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:21:39
          The world doesn't have a right to squat on our dime. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:09:27
               end welfare - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:11:49
                    End welfare? It already doesn't exist. - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:33:28
                    I don't think many want it abolished but serious reform is - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:18:06
                    I have no problem with that. I just doubt that it's possible - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:16:06
                         So you don't care about old people anymore? - pickle MU - 2/1 10:45:10
     In our country, this is wholly untrue - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:03:50
          Immigrant population in theUS has a higher unemployment - Spanky KU - 2/1 10:15:36
          There is a difference between immigrants and refugees(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:12:04
          Have no problem with legal immigrants...just - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:06:26
               What's the difference? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:13:45
          Why, that's believable because you just said so. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:06:17
               RE: Why, that's believable because you just said so. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:10:22
                    Good try, but you failed. On so many levels. Talking jobs - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:26:56
                         The post below showed the positive impact of immigrants - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:31:54
               RE: Why, that's believable because you just said so. - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:09:08
                    Not really all that compelling. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:14:16
     It's not your decision to make - pickle MU - 2/1 10:01:17
          The decision was made when Trump was elected...so - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:04:51
               Non sequitur (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:08:26
                    I'll take your opinion under consideration...but - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:12:03
                         I didn't give an opinion (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:12:53
                              I'll take it as such ..and file it where it belongs. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:14:05
                                   So childish (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:22:26
               Exactly - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:06:40
                    Who won the election again? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:08:14
                         These are juvenile responses - pickle MU - 2/1 10:12:29
                              The people spoke...this is what they wanted... - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:18:01
                                   Apart from your statement being factually incorrect - pickle MU - 2/1 10:22:12
                                        No your statement is factually incorrect. You assume that - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:30:34
                                             You really suck at logic - pickle MU - 2/1 10:34:25
                                                  Casting dispersions makes you look at lot smaller. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:36:46
                                                       How can Pickle look smaller? This was just another attempt - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:40:41
                                                            You? Challenge? - pickle MU - 2/1 10:44:17
                                        Amazing how Trump has turned their whole conversation - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:30:34
                                             Tell me how you know Trump wants big government? - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:35:32
                                                  RE: Tell me how you know Trump wants big government? - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:44:44
                                                       That sounds like a stretch....if he eliminates some of the - Logan BAMA - 2/1 11:09:54
                                                            What do you mean a stratch - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:22:06
                                                  He wasn't talking about Trump but people like you (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:38:21
                                                       I don't lIke big government...and didn't vote for either... - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:41:19
                                                            You are all about big gvmt in this thread - pickle MU - 2/1 10:43:07
                         Your master did - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:10:32
                              He's your master also slave. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:13:14




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