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I don't think many want it abolished but serious reform is

Posted on: February 1, 2017 at 10:18:06 CT
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Americans have no problem helping the poor and needy. healthy adults should not be receiving welfare except as a temporary measure for those who have stumbled and need a hand back up.

Welfare should never be a way of life or multi-generational.
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Why I don't want any refugees. They don't get jobs. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 09:58:25
     And addly enough, them GETTING jobs is also a reason - GA Tiger MU - 2/1 11:31:24
          You are ignorant (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 12:08:30
     They deserve to be supported the rest of their lives - mu7176grad MU - 2/1 11:05:36
     Here is what I don't get - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:28:38
          Thats great. And in your either/or tradition are you - GA Tiger MU - 2/1 11:32:55
               RE: Thats great. And in your either/or tradition are you - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:35:27
                    Is a bias always either a negative or wrong?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 2/1 13:05:10
          That's fine once they are vetted properly. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:38:27
               Who says they haven't been vetted properly already? You?(nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:41:33
                    as a point of fact, in our government, the executive branch - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:45:55
                         Because the countries chosen make little sense - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:59:46
                              they actually make perfect sense - FootballRefugee MU - 2/1 11:34:15
                                   Nothing practical about - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:36:54
                                        "made up problem"? what problem has been "made up"? - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:40:32
                                             RE: "made up problem"? what problem has been "made up"? - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:45:23
                                                  They are also increasing vetting of their compatability with - Tiger@chicago MU - 2/1 12:39:07
                                                  your ignorance is pretty overwhelming, meat. as FR pointed - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 12:11:38
                                                       RE: your ignorance is pretty overwhelming, meat. as FR pointed - meatiger MU - 2/1 12:13:55
                                                  we know they are targeting refugee programs - FootballRefugee MU - 2/1 11:59:25
                                                       some of these came here as kids - meatiger MU - 2/1 12:13:01
                              That list was created by Homeland Security for the Obama - DHighlander KC - 2/1 11:09:14
               None of your business (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:40:53
               RE: That's fine once they are vetted properly. (nm) - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:40:19
                    I think this is the article I was thinking of - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:52:30
                    read this - do you seek information or just deny its existen - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:52:05
                         does it say how many of those were refugees?(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:57:07
                              did you read it? I don't think so. the point of the matter - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:03:36
                                   I didn't read the Inspector General Report it linked to - cnk ATL - 2/1 11:09:50
                                   you dont' get it - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:06:35
                                        oh, no, you've stated that there "is no problem", that this - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:41:27
                    why do you persist in ignoring the fundamental purpose - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:48:10
                         The preamble of the EO - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:53:28
                              nothing was "shut down", meat. thousands and thousands - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:55:39
                    the process can take up to 2 years - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:46:58
                    it isn't necessary that I do. - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:46:28
                    I think they jumped the gun this past weekend... - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:43:20
                         yeah, effen rolled it out worse than obamacare. nm - justwinbaby KC - 2/1 10:54:01
                         but it is more than a pause - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:46:36
                              RE: but it is more than a pause - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:50:30
                                   RE: but it is more than a pause - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:54:56
                                        that's old news, btw, and GC/visa holders were never - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:42:34
                                             3 days is old news - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:46:41
                              no mean, the GC issue was resolved and never intended. - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:48:49
                    I think the evidence has to be in the affirmative. Do you - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:42:11
                         What evidence? - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:42:51
                              There have been numerous intelligence officials who have - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:49:45
                                   And the switch is occuring - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:48:04
                                   correct, but if meat can remain willfully ignorant of these - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 11:43:22
               that's how the system for refugees currently works(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:38:51
          if I remember right, it's a Catholic charity that does a lot - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:32:09
               I think there are various charity groups - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:33:52
                    yes, there are several groups - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:35:33
     just think of what they could do with a bunch of giant hamst - justwinbaby KC - 2/1 10:26:51
     RE: Why I don't want any refugees. They don't get jobs. - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:09:39
     so do you enslave them and force them to work? - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:04:58
          RE: so do you enslave them and force them to work? - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:23:10
               that doesn't appear to be the case for refugees historically - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:27:44
                    RE: that doesn't appear to be the case for refugees historically - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:33:51
                         That's what the study was looking at - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:44:22
                              RE: That's what the study was looking at - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 10:53:31
          I don't think Rhay is suggesting enslavement. But is it - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:14:58
               We have millions of Americans who don't have the skills - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:19:57
                    RE: We have millions of Americans who don't have the skills - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:06:22
                    so you want to bring in a bunch more, right? (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 2/1 10:33:08
                         It's not up to you (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:45:46
                              RE: It's not up to you (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 2/1 11:12:45
                    So is bringing in more the answer? Americans that do not - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:23:39
                         I'm saying that immigrants/refugees will work - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:28:09
                              But there is a difference between immigrants and refugees. - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:36:50
                                   That's not correct on refugees. - DC Jayhawk KU - 2/1 10:47:49
                                   Lol - pickle MU - 2/1 10:41:50
                                        For someone that pathologically post to this forum it is - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:44:18
               there are resources for refugees in the US - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:19:18
               I shouldn't have to say it. No slaves. Anywhere. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:17:06
               The same point can be made about many groups of Americans - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:16:42
                    Most, not all but most of them paid into that system their - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:21:39
          The world doesn't have a right to squat on our dime. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:09:27
               end welfare - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:11:49
                    End welfare? It already doesn't exist. - catbirdseat MU - 2/1 10:33:28
                    I don't think many want it abolished but serious reform is - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:18:06
                    I have no problem with that. I just doubt that it's possible - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:16:06
                         So you don't care about old people anymore? - pickle MU - 2/1 10:45:10
     In our country, this is wholly untrue - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:03:50
          Immigrant population in theUS has a higher unemployment - Spanky KU - 2/1 10:15:36
          There is a difference between immigrants and refugees(nm) - cnk ATL - 2/1 10:12:04
          Have no problem with legal immigrants...just - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:06:26
               What's the difference? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:13:45
          Why, that's believable because you just said so. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:06:17
               RE: Why, that's believable because you just said so. - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:10:22
                    Good try, but you failed. On so many levels. Talking jobs - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:26:56
                         The post below showed the positive impact of immigrants - MrBlueSky MU - 2/1 10:31:54
               RE: Why, that's believable because you just said so. - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:09:08
                    Not really all that compelling. - RHAYWORTH MU - 2/1 10:14:16
     It's not your decision to make - pickle MU - 2/1 10:01:17
          The decision was made when Trump was elected...so - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:04:51
               Non sequitur (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:08:26
                    I'll take your opinion under consideration...but - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:12:03
                         I didn't give an opinion (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:12:53
                              I'll take it as such ..and file it where it belongs. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:14:05
                                   So childish (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:22:26
               Exactly - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:06:40
                    Who won the election again? (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:08:14
                         These are juvenile responses - pickle MU - 2/1 10:12:29
                              The people spoke...this is what they wanted... - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:18:01
                                   Apart from your statement being factually incorrect - pickle MU - 2/1 10:22:12
                                        No your statement is factually incorrect. You assume that - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:30:34
                                             You really suck at logic - pickle MU - 2/1 10:34:25
                                                  Casting dispersions makes you look at lot smaller. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:36:46
                                                       How can Pickle look smaller? This was just another attempt - DHighlander KC - 2/1 10:40:41
                                                            You? Challenge? - pickle MU - 2/1 10:44:17
                                        Amazing how Trump has turned their whole conversation - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:30:34
                                             Tell me how you know Trump wants big government? - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:35:32
                                                  RE: Tell me how you know Trump wants big government? - meatiger MU - 2/1 10:44:44
                                                       That sounds like a stretch....if he eliminates some of the - Logan BAMA - 2/1 11:09:54
                                                            What do you mean a stratch - meatiger MU - 2/1 11:22:06
                                                  He wasn't talking about Trump but people like you (nm) - pickle MU - 2/1 10:38:21
                                                       I don't lIke big government...and didn't vote for either... - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:41:19
                                                            You are all about big gvmt in this thread - pickle MU - 2/1 10:43:07
                         Your master did - El-ahrairah KC - 2/1 10:10:32
                              He's your master also slave. (nm) - Logan BAMA - 2/1 10:13:14




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