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Every Trump supporter's wet dream. (nm)
Posted on: January 28, 2017 at 21:19:17 CT
tigerspy
MU
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the court's order...
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 20:47:45
RE: the court's order...
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:05:28
Why would you want to deny due process? nm
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SparkyStalcup
MU
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1/29 02:17:03
EVERYONE under US jurisdiction is guaranteed due process.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:11:57
How is a non citizen that is out of the country under
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:58:05
RE: EVERYONE under US jurisdiction is guaranteed due process.(nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:14:17
But not given every right under the constitution and all
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:25:09
They caint, Its just liberals being retarded
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Uncle Fester
USMC
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1/28 21:08:13
the 14th amendment
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:06:15
correction, the 5th amendment due process
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 22:53:36
RE: the 14th amendment
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:09:52
person means human being
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:14:17
They sure as hell weren't before 1868.*
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:22:57
then those mother****ers are SOL(nm)
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:24:10
They were. Before the 14th. And other stuff.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:32:31
RE: person means human being
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:16:23
I thought we were discussing whether non-citizens
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:18:53
JURISDICTION. Look up the word.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:12:42
Not until they hit U.S. soil. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:11:41
the 14th amendment sold federal restraints off on the states
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90Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:08:03
dunno. how beefy do you want to get?
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:13:43
and you still didn't address my very simple point.
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90Tiger
MU
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1/29 05:11:33
How does it affect those currently abroad that
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 20:55:46
I believe anyone from those countries who have
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:01:28
RE: I believe anyone from those countries who have
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:12:34
that's great because I'm going to enslave me an illegal
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:16:43
Every Trump supporter's wet dream. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:19:17
No.. illegal immigrants are still protected by due process.
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:14:59
Wrong again.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:13:41
Good.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:02:41
What is the part of the constitution that gives
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 20:55:28
Read the 14th Amendment.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 20:58:14
So explain how visitors and visa holders fall under that
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:01:12
Does voting for Trump drop one's IQ?
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:03:59
RE: Does voting for Trump drop one's IQ?
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:06:03
All persons born or naturalized
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:06:00
Thats a lotta work you know. For a demlib.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:06:33
Guess what? It even applies to illegal aliens. GASP! (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:11:12
No.(nm)
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:12:52
Yep.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:14:09
Sure. I couldn't set first chair as I have never argued in
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:20:40
Here you go:
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:26:33
I refuse to accept anything the 9th circus rules.
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:34:13
Great. That's a United States Supreme Court ruling. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:36:29
That doesn't give him the same rights as citizens or those
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:33:51
I'm not making that argument.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:37:18
And I am saying only the process according to the laws we
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:43:56
No, that has never been "due process".
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:48:04
Read the chain. There are many claimING they have all the
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:53:17
I never have. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:58:02
Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 20:57:09
RE: Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:24:00
Anyone in U.S. jurisdiction. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:29:23
Get real. It clearly refers to CITIZENS. And I will
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:00:25
this is good. we get to talk civics for once
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:03:40
You are a lawyer, but that still wont be good enough for
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:10:30
So am I. What is your point.
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:16:45
RE: So am I. What is your point.
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:28:28
Let's just stick to the US Supreme Court. You go first. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:19:56
Frame the arguement. You are claiming the 14th amendement
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:22:30
No, I am not.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:25:31
Visitors don't have the same constitutional rights
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:29:27
These people are here legally. An executive order
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:31:03
Due process is different than them having all of the rights
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:35:41
other than all of the other rights afforded "persons"
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Iam4Mizzou
MU
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1/28 21:42:45
Now you are carving out rights. On what basis
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:45:20
"Any person"(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:47:19
RE: "Any person"(nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 22:00:50
Any citizens or those naturalized
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:53:55
And this whole situation is because due process was not
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:42:27
What is due process for a travel & business VISA holder?
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:51:53
Due process is the same for any category of person,
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:57:28
You oversimplify. If a person with a VISA is out of the
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tman
KC
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1/28 22:04:03
If a visa holder is under U.S. jurisdiction,
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 22:12:31
No $hit Sherlock. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:37:54
Wrong.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:29:57
Your reading is correct. Liberal judges will try to twist i
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:02:44
Man, you really can't read?
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:02:10
"Any person" apparently does not mean any person. Lol(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:03:15
Read it again old man.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:01:05
That is a strectch. Are you claiming visitors
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tman
KC
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1/28 20:59:33
It clearly applies to anyone within the US jurisdiction.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:00:40
RE: It clearly applies to anyone within the US jurisdiction.(nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:58:48
It refers to that. I question what application was intended
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:05:07
Treaties are the highest law in the land. (nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:08:39
All persons born or naturalized. If you read the 14th amend
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:08:22
Damn, TrumpTards tarding really hard tonight.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:09:36
RE: Damn, TrumpTards tarding really hard tonight.
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:31:28
Put down the ConspiracyAde. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:32:12
Confers equal rights to citizens or those naturalized
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:11:42
Lol, no. (nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:13:27
You'd think plain English would.be easy to understand.(nm)
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:11:11
You tried to understand Trump when he talks?
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:13:19
RE: You tried to understand Trump when he talks?
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:46:47
See? I have no idea what you meant by that post. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:48:56
Nope. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:00:02
Yep. Where do you go to law school?(nm)
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:01:47
Nope. They are not naturalized.
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:02:47
So it doesn't apply to them. Got it(nm)
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:04:45
Wrong. Bigly. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 21:14:32
Right Bigly(nm)
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tman
KC
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1/28 21:23:08
on what grounds do you disagree with the "ban" legally
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90Tiger
MU
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1/28 20:51:15
lol
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TheShoe
STL
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1/28 20:59:06
^^^ Must have been drinking a lot.(nm)
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GA Tiger
MU
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1/28 20:56:40
Great brief there, Lionel Hutz. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 20:54:16
I notice you still haven't answered, choosing to
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90Tiger
MU
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1/28 20:56:10
Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 20:57:26
RE: Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:52:37
make the case, here (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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1/28 20:58:16
Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 20:59:14
RE: Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 21:54:35
It does not. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 22:00:59
RE: It does not. (nm)
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MOCO SON
MU
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1/28 22:04:25
You misread or misunderstand. (nm)
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tigerspy
MU
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1/28 22:13:30
wait
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90Tiger
MU
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1/28 21:01:07
It refers to green card and visa holders legally here stuck
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TigerMatt
STL
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1/28 21:02:02
And to those
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DC Jayhawk
KU
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1/28 21:03:30
Thanks for clarifying the order(nm)
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Danny Whizzbang
U
S
A
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1/28 20:50:28