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So explain how visitors and visa holders fall under that

Posted on: January 28, 2017 at 21:01:12 CT
tman MU
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Amendment. Note I am using visa holders here tommean the refugees. Is there a difference bewteen the two jn your opinion?
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the court's order... - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 20:47:45
     RE: the court's order... - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:05:28
          Why would you want to deny due process? nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 1/29 02:17:03
          EVERYONE under US jurisdiction is guaranteed due process.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:11:57
               How is a non citizen that is out of the country under - tman KC - 1/28 21:58:05
               RE: EVERYONE under US jurisdiction is guaranteed due process.(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:14:17
                    But not given every right under the constitution and all - tman KC - 1/28 21:25:09
          They caint, Its just liberals being retarded - Uncle Fester USMC - 1/28 21:08:13
          the 14th amendment - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:06:15
               correction, the 5th amendment due process - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 22:53:36
               RE: the 14th amendment - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:09:52
                    person means human being - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:14:17
                         They sure as hell weren't before 1868.* - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:22:57
                              then those mother****ers are SOL(nm) - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:24:10
                                   They were. Before the 14th. And other stuff.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:32:31
                         RE: person means human being - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:16:23
                              I thought we were discussing whether non-citizens - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:18:53
                    JURISDICTION. Look up the word.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:12:42
                    Not until they hit U.S. soil. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:11:41
               the 14th amendment sold federal restraints off on the states - 90Tiger MU - 1/28 21:08:03
                    dunno. how beefy do you want to get? - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:13:43
                         and you still didn't address my very simple point. - 90Tiger MU - 1/29 05:11:33
     How does it affect those currently abroad that - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 20:55:46
          I believe anyone from those countries who have - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:01:28
               RE: I believe anyone from those countries who have - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:12:34
                    that's great because I'm going to enslave me an illegal - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:16:43
                         Every Trump supporter's wet dream. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:19:17
                    No.. illegal immigrants are still protected by due process. - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:14:59
                    Wrong again. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:13:41
               Good.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:02:41
     What is the part of the constitution that gives - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 20:55:28
          Read the 14th Amendment.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 20:58:14
               So explain how visitors and visa holders fall under that - tman KC - 1/28 21:01:12
                    Does voting for Trump drop one's IQ? - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:03:59
                         RE: Does voting for Trump drop one's IQ? - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:06:03
                         All persons born or naturalized - tman KC - 1/28 21:06:00
                              Thats a lotta work you know. For a demlib.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:06:33
                                   Guess what? It even applies to illegal aliens. GASP! (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:11:12
                                        No.(nm) - tman KC - 1/28 21:12:52
                                             Yep. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:14:09
                                                  Sure. I couldn't set first chair as I have never argued in - tman KC - 1/28 21:20:40
                                                       Here you go: - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:26:33
                                                            I refuse to accept anything the 9th circus rules. - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:34:13
                                                                 Great. That's a United States Supreme Court ruling. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:36:29
                                                            That doesn't give him the same rights as citizens or those - tman KC - 1/28 21:33:51
                                                                 I'm not making that argument. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:37:18
                                                                      And I am saying only the process according to the laws we - tman KC - 1/28 21:43:56
                                                                           No, that has never been "due process". - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:48:04
                                                                                Read the chain. There are many claimING they have all the - tman KC - 1/28 21:53:17
                                                                                     I never have. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:58:02
          Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 20:57:09
               RE: Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:24:00
                    Anyone in U.S. jurisdiction. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:29:23
               Get real. It clearly refers to CITIZENS. And I will - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:00:25
                    this is good. we get to talk civics for once - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:03:40
                         You are a lawyer, but that still wont be good enough for - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:10:30
                              So am I. What is your point. - tman KC - 1/28 21:16:45
                                   RE: So am I. What is your point. - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:28:28
                                   Let's just stick to the US Supreme Court. You go first. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:19:56
                                        Frame the arguement. You are claiming the 14th amendement - tman KC - 1/28 21:22:30
                                             No, I am not. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:25:31
                                                  Visitors don't have the same constitutional rights - tman KC - 1/28 21:29:27
                                                       These people are here legally. An executive order - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:31:03
                                                            Due process is different than them having all of the rights - tman KC - 1/28 21:35:41
                                                                 other than all of the other rights afforded "persons" - Iam4Mizzou MU - 1/28 21:42:45
                                                                      Now you are carving out rights. On what basis - tman KC - 1/28 21:45:20
                                                                           "Any person"(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:47:19
                                                                                RE: "Any person"(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 22:00:50
                                                                                Any citizens or those naturalized - tman KC - 1/28 21:53:55
                                                                 And this whole situation is because due process was not - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:42:27
                                                                      What is due process for a travel & business VISA holder? - tman KC - 1/28 21:51:53
                                                                           Due process is the same for any category of person, - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:57:28
                                                                                You oversimplify. If a person with a VISA is out of the - tman KC - 1/28 22:04:03
                                                                                     If a visa holder is under U.S. jurisdiction, - tigerspy MU - 1/28 22:12:31
                                                                 No $hit Sherlock. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:37:54
                                                       Wrong. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:29:57
                    Your reading is correct. Liberal judges will try to twist i - tman KC - 1/28 21:02:44
                    Man, you really can't read? - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:02:10
                         "Any person" apparently does not mean any person. Lol(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:03:15
                    Read it again old man.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:01:05
               That is a strectch. Are you claiming visitors - tman KC - 1/28 20:59:33
                    It clearly applies to anyone within the US jurisdiction.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:00:40
                         RE: It clearly applies to anyone within the US jurisdiction.(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:58:48
                         It refers to that. I question what application was intended - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 21:05:07
                              Treaties are the highest law in the land. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:08:39
                              All persons born or naturalized. If you read the 14th amend - tman KC - 1/28 21:08:22
                                   Damn, TrumpTards tarding really hard tonight. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:09:36
                                        RE: Damn, TrumpTards tarding really hard tonight. - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:31:28
                                             Put down the ConspiracyAde. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:32:12
                                        Confers equal rights to citizens or those naturalized - tman KC - 1/28 21:11:42
                                             Lol, no. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:13:27
                                        You'd think plain English would.be easy to understand.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:11:11
                                             You tried to understand Trump when he talks? - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:13:19
                                                  RE: You tried to understand Trump when he talks? - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:46:47
                                                       See? I have no idea what you meant by that post. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:48:56
                    Nope. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:00:02
                         Yep. Where do you go to law school?(nm) - tman KC - 1/28 21:01:47
                              Nope. They are not naturalized. - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:02:47
                                   So it doesn't apply to them. Got it(nm) - tman KC - 1/28 21:04:45
                                        Wrong. Bigly. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 21:14:32
                                             Right Bigly(nm) - tman KC - 1/28 21:23:08
     on what grounds do you disagree with the "ban" legally - 90Tiger MU - 1/28 20:51:15
          lol - TheShoe STL - 1/28 20:59:06
          ^^^ Must have been drinking a lot.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 1/28 20:56:40
          Great brief there, Lionel Hutz. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 20:54:16
               I notice you still haven't answered, choosing to - 90Tiger MU - 1/28 20:56:10
                    Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 20:57:26
                         RE: Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:52:37
                         make the case, here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 1/28 20:58:16
                              Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution - tigerspy MU - 1/28 20:59:14
                                   RE: Section One of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 21:54:35
                                        It does not. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 22:00:59
                                             RE: It does not. (nm) - MOCO SON MU - 1/28 22:04:25
                                                  You misread or misunderstand. (nm) - tigerspy MU - 1/28 22:13:30
                                   wait - 90Tiger MU - 1/28 21:01:07
                                        It refers to green card and visa holders legally here stuck - TigerMatt STL - 1/28 21:02:02
                                             And to those - DC Jayhawk KU - 1/28 21:03:30
     Thanks for clarifying the order(nm) - Danny Whizzbang USA - 1/28 20:50:28




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