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Building with 3 stars and the occasional 4 star player is

Posted on: October 12, 2016 at 07:59:04 CT
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probably the only way this program can be successful under any coach.

But top 150 3-star players aren't the same as unranked 200+ 3-star players. Go back and look through our unranked our 3-star players and see how many turned out to be above average players (Bowers, Lawrence, and maybe Puryear) and how many were below average, transferred out, or were role players. Now compare that with the top 150 3 star players and how good they were. Guys like English, Denmon, Dixon, Demarre, Tiller, or Lyons far out-number the 3-star top 150 guys that were below average. It's just the law of averages. Your odds of being successful with top 150 3-star players is much higher than doing it with 150+ 3 star players.

We aren't recruiting at the same level we were recruiting at under Mike Anderson. And the big difference is that Mike was able to keep those top 150 3-star players for 4 years which Kim hasn't been able to do.
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Haiths 30 win season - StlWeir MU - 10/11 21:02:22
     Norm's undefeated Big 12 team had 8 seniors - alstl MU - 10/12 08:54:45
          maybe most of the players run off - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 09:13:52
               Again, not bashing Kim but if you can only coach one type - alstl MU - 10/12 11:34:21
               Most ran off, not got run off (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 09:30:36
               "maybe" kids respond differently to different coaches, reput - 90Tiger MU - 10/12 09:19:22
                    Right not saying the players that left aren't any good - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 09:25:05
                         the staff was a bad fit for the kids (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 10/12 09:46:30
     but Ernie Nestor was an infinity star coach (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 10/12 08:34:25
          Ernie actually cratered 2 programs - Geo Mason and Elon - Mormad MU - 10/12 09:07:29
               He had a unique and specific role at MU - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 09:09:16
                    Yes, he was pretty much able to coach others recruits - Mormad MU - 10/12 10:15:14
                         Right, he was part of a coaching team at MU that was - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 10:20:58
     Building with 3 stars and the occasional 4 star player is - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12 07:59:04
          RE: Building with 3 stars and the occasional 4 star player is - StlWeir MU - 10/12 08:48:26
          Disagree that building with 3 and occasional 4 star - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 08:03:53
               When is the last time under any coach that we consistently - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12 08:11:05
                    It's not like we've had 50 coaches. In the era of - alwaysright MU - 10/12 12:08:29
                    Mike Anderson selected with a different criteria than - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 08:53:50
                         Anderson has recruited lots of top 100 players - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 09:12:35
                              Not to much success. His blueprint at UAB and early - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 09:29:51
                                   His problem at Arkansas is players leaving - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 12:38:02
                                        That was partly his problem last year and with Portis, but - alwaysright MU - 10/12 18:05:23
                    It hasn't been done recently - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 08:41:53
                         How much of that was based on skill and how much of that - StaleyTiger MU - 10/12 08:45:31
                              Who knows, and neither were close to a guy like Tatum - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 08:51:25
     RERatliff and Pressey were 4*, - 77TIGER MU - 10/12 00:26:50
     We also had the best coaching in the nation that season - FIJItiger MU - 10/11 22:34:34
          Nestor was poetry in motion (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 10/12 08:35:57
          GAG - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 10/12 07:01:40
               Might be what people unfamiliar with that team remembers(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 08:49:52
          A great coach doesn't lose to Norfolk St - MoGold MU - 10/12 00:07:00
               Duke lost to a 15 seed later that day also - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 07:01:03
                    Beat me to it (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 10/12 08:19:51
               RE: English was hurt and scored 2 points, and Denmon - 77TIGER MU - 10/12 00:30:15
          Why didn't he coach that well the next 2 seasons...? - kctgrs MU - 10/11 23:41:53
               I'm sorry you missed that season, it was fun to watch(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 09:01:39
                    I'm sorry you can't comprehend my question well enough... - kctgrs MU - 10/12 09:27:29
               RE: Why didn't he coach that well Because Mike Anderson had - 77TIGER MU - 10/12 00:31:43
                    Porter was a Mizzou lock until Anderson left - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 06:59:26
                         Good post, this is spot on (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 08:55:42
                         RE: Porter was a Mizzou lock until Anderson left - StlWeir MU - 10/12 08:46:39
          sure we did, it was fun watching him collect players - Jeff85 MU - 10/11 22:52:12
               RE: sure we did, it was fun watching him collect players - FIJItiger MU - 10/11 22:56:45
                    What does the world remember? The worst NCAA loss in MU - MoGold MU - 10/12 00:11:05
                         Come on man. - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 08:48:43
                              RE: Come on man. You said almost exactly what I said - 77TIGER MU - 10/13 01:42:24
                              RE: Come on man. - Phoggy08 KU - 10/12 14:03:02
                              RE: Come on man. - BIG RAY USA - 10/12 12:14:43
                              RE: Come on man. - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/12 09:56:33
                                   Sorry for leaving you out, yes you also made - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 10:01:01
                                        RE: Sorry for leaving you out, yes you also made - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/12 10:05:48
                                             Not sure, didn't really read it for content (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/12 10:12:16
                                                  RE: Not sure, didn't really read it for content (nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 10/12 12:33:09
                         Worse loss in NCAA history. Not just MU by many arguements - tman KC - 10/12 07:37:30
                              Until last season - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 08:45:13
                    And he gagged in the NCAA tournament - tman KC - 10/11 23:44:04
                    lol - BIG RAY USA - 10/11 23:18:32
          LOL - 615Tiger STL - 10/11 22:37:01
               Agreed - FIJItiger MU - 10/11 22:43:25
                    Dixon was a bigger loss - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/12 07:03:26
     English was a lot like Walton or CJ Roberts - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 21:21:20




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