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RE: While Kim hasn't got the job done, the program started...

Posted on: September 14, 2016 at 09:56:58 CT
FIJItiger MU
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Haith inherited a situation with nearly complete turnover, only 1 player returned to play a single minute from the prior year in his second season. So he 'declined' from a 30 win, #2 seed, Big 12 championship team to a 23 win, NCAA tourney team, that got 5th in the SEC. That is a pretty reasonable decline given the turnover, particularly considering a preseason All American never got to suit up that season and a mid-season Naismith watch list player got injured. You are correct though that he did not continue to win 30 games.

Haith was not an ideal coach, MU should be able to do better. The most MU as a program has ever won in a 3 year period was 77 games, and in Haith's 3 seasons we won 76. I'm not sure that is the accurate place to pinpoint our decline.

Edited by FIJItiger at 09:57:28 on 09/14/16
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Actual facts about MU's program pre-Kim - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 08:54:48
     Triple digits. That's the sign of a real fisherman. - bornoncampus MU - 9/14 11:16:33
          Lol. it'll be fun to see if he's got enough bait to earn - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:26:06
     RE: Actual facts about MU's program pre-Kim - Ray-tiger MU - 9/14 10:42:21
     RE: wrong, there were 4 times we didnt from 85-2000 - 77TIGER MU - 9/14 10:13:11
          MU earned a bid in '91 as I wrote - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 10:18:53
               did Josh tell u that - Jeff85 MU - 9/14 10:38:12
     Cool. Thanks for sharing. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 09:58:42
     While Kim hasn't got the job done, the program started... - Lerxst MU - 9/14 09:52:16
          RE: While Kim hasn't got the job done, the program started... - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:56:58
     RE: Actual facts about MU's program pre-Kim - hondo MU - 9/14 09:23:15
          I love that you want the dialogue to end only when presented - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 09:33:59
               RE: I love that you want the dialogue to end only when presented - hondo MU - 9/14 13:31:32
               RE: I love that you want the dialogue to end only when presented - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:15:35
          to know this guy would help a lot in understanding his - Jeff85 MU - 9/14 09:27:44
          This post is about the period before Kim - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:26:21
     And Haith destroyed the future in his effort to - 615Tiger STL - 9/14 09:08:28
          haith and anderson obliterated the program before KIM? - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:21:00
          The program was not in an obliterated state when Kim took - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 09:26:45
               RE: The program was not in an obliterated state when Kim took - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:22:04
                    I think neither situations were ideal. Both were pretty - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:34:48
               Gregg Marshall: "it's a complete rebuild." - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:11:03
                    "Reportedly". Did did a KA'er report this?(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:21:19
                         Was out there before Kim was hired. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:40:52
                         It was pretty obvious looking at what was coming back - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 10:34:27
                              I don't disagree that it was a rebuild. We lost a bunch of - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:46:18
                                   if it is going to take 3 years that's a complete rebuild - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 10:54:12
          RE: And Haith destroyed the future in his effort to - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:13:36
               RE: And Haith destroyed the future in his effort to - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:24:51
               He probably would have - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 09:36:23
                    No doubt. He would have won somewhere between - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:44:56
                         He would've won 11- 12 games, because of having punter, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 10:07:06
                              Your claim about Jones isn't true. - cefoo MU - 9/14 10:20:41
                                   Haith allowing them to smoke crack is what Jones wanted.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/14 11:52:50
                                   RE: Your claim about Jones isn't true. - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:34:18
                                        History actually proves my claims to be correct. - cefoo MU - 9/14 10:43:01
                                        What was so wrong with Bell? - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:40:09
                              It is incredibly diffult and requires a considerable amount - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 10:15:48
                                   Even better, no actual subject matter, just proclamations, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 10:19:50
                                        You seem confused as to what constitutes a fact(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 10:22:11
                              You're talking to the king of coulda, shoulda, woulda.(nm) - sprintcar STL - 9/14 10:11:54
                                   I know, can't wait to see the crap he responds with, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 10:14:06
     He also inherited a team with the leading returning scorer - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 09:06:30
          So, those transfers wouldn't have sat out in 2014-15? - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/14 10:13:22
               What everyone continues to ignore is Kim was hired in May, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 10:15:31
                    that was easily his best recruiting class (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 10:20:35
          Mike Anderson inherited a similar situation. He had one - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 09:21:06
               Other than J3 and Teki, who should he have retained? - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 10:11:38
                    J3, Teki, Namon, and Gant on a team with Puryear, Phillips, - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:25:45
                         I don't think so, - nerdmachine KC - 9/14 11:44:41
                         RE: J3, Teki, Namon, and Gant on a team with Puryear, Phillips, - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:49:05
                              The point still remains that our team with those 4 players - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 10:53:36
                                   Not if those 4 players aren't giving all they have in a - sprintcar STL - 9/14 11:00:42
                         He is basically trading Wright for - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 10:31:33
               I don't really disagree with any of that - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/14 09:34:02
                    Unfortunately this is exactly why you never see a D2 coach - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 09:50:40
                         RE: Unfortunately this is exactly why you never see a D2 coach - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:50:35
                              When is the last time a D2 coach went directly from D2 to - StaleyTiger MU - 9/14 11:06:00
               RE: Mike Anderson inherited a similar situation. He had one - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:24:06
                    RE: Mike Anderson inherited a similar situation. He had one - StlWeir MU - 9/14 10:53:57
     thank you for yet another example of how kim hasn't done - ajpe53 MU - 9/14 08:57:08
          He doesn't even mention Kim. You're projecting here (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 09:35:04
               do you just skip the subject lines?(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 9/14 09:41:07
                    no, i understand context. it's a temporal reference. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/14 10:33:19
          Some Kim fans seem unfamiliar with the concept that - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:03:57
               everyone knows why you post this crap. it is redefining - ajpe53 MU - 9/14 09:07:26
                    Sorry you feel a detailing of our past history to be - FIJItiger MU - 9/14 09:10:35
                         RE: Sorry you feel a detailing of our past history to be - StlWeir MU - 9/14 11:05:11




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