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Why? We never won a conference title in the Big 12

Posted on: September 13, 2016 at 13:16:43 CT
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and that was in a period where it wasn't one of the two or three best leagues year in and year out.

I don't get that school of thought. We've never made a final four and last won a league title in 1994. What have we ever shown that we should be this dominating basketball force? Certainly not administration commitment or a large, fanatical fanbase. We have none of those things.

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Article on potential programs to challenge UK in SEC - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 08:42:19
     UK hiring calipari has damaged college basketball severely - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 16:17:12
     Ben Howland recruiting - Nookam UK - 9/13 12:46:04
          RE: Ben Howland recruiting - Phoggy08 KU - 9/13 14:53:07
               RE: Ben Howland recruiting - Nookam UK - 9/13 16:02:01
                    RE: Ben Howland recruiting - Phoggy08 KU - 9/14 11:45:38
                    There were actually three Davidsons... (nm) - KC_MizzouFan MU - 9/14 07:33:38
          no bag man at MU - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 13:02:41
     I see three NCAA Tournament teams again - mizzoudiehard MU - 9/13 11:51:58
     i thought missouri would do well outside the big12 ... - tmcats KSU - 9/13 11:23:26
          Its bizarre - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 13:52:46
          Haith ran us into the ground then fled under cover of night - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 13:05:02
          We should be dominating in the SEC. - Evenflow MU - 9/13 12:45:33
               Why? We never won a conference title in the Big 12 - MakeShift MU - 9/13 13:16:43
                    "tournament championships" would be better words, fiji(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/13 14:35:31
                         Tournament championship is a conference title - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:39:33
                              So we didn't win the conference title in 1994? - MakeShift MU - 9/13 17:22:34
                                   Of course, that is also an example of a conf title (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 18:40:31
                              This appears to be a good spot to go ahead and unload my 10. - sprintcar STL - 9/13 15:09:00
                              it's a conference tournament title, not a conference title. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 14:48:23
                                   RE: it's a conference tournament title, not a conference title. - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 14:54:56
                                        Suck it, beaker. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 15:22:11
                                             RE: Suck it, beaker. - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 15:27:37
                                   Not accurate - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:51:55
                                        Have you ever considered suicide? - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 15:23:51
                                             I can't relate, but condolences if you find yourself in such - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 15:26:57
                                        the banners in the gym say conf champ and conf tour - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 14:54:08
                                             And both are examples of a conference title (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:59:34
                                                  not really and not even close - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 15:01:18
                                                       Obviously they are, and it isn't really even debatable(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 15:16:40
                                                            To borrow from a more knowledgeable poster, - sprintcar STL - 9/13 15:20:58
                                                                 You don't think the conference tourney championship is - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 15:22:47
                                             RE: the banners in the gym say conf champ and conf tour - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 14:56:48
                                                  he knows the difference he just likes to act like a - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 14:58:54
                                                       RE: he knows the difference he just likes to act like a - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 15:12:53
                    We won 2 of the last 4 conference titles in the Big 12(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 13:54:56
                         RE: We won 2 of the last 4 conference titles in the Big 12(nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 14:21:19
                              RE: We won 2 of the last 4 conference titles in the Big 12(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:27:20
                                   RE: We won 2 of the last 4 conference titles in the Big 12(nm) - Phoggy08 KU - 9/13 14:55:12
                                        That is also a conference title - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:58:31
                                             RE: That is also a conference title - Phoggy08 KU - 9/13 15:11:37
                                   RE: We won 2 of the last 4 conference titles in the Big 12(nm) - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 14:49:50
                                        I can never follow your convoluted questions or determine - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:54:11
                                             RE: I can never follow your convoluted questions or determine - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 15:11:03
                                                  Nobody claims any of these weird things you try and - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 15:19:26
                                                       RE: Nobody claims any of these weird things you try and - BuckTurgidson KU - 9/13 15:26:14
                                   big 12 does wordmanship their titles ... - tmcats KSU - 9/13 14:34:26
                                        man, that is alot of asterisks. - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:38:30
                         They don't understand that - Rabbit Test MU - 9/13 13:59:43
                              I can understand the need to try and find angles - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 14:12:52
                    He didn't say "dominating basketball force" and he didn't - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 13:42:26
                    But but but.... - sprintcar STL - 9/13 13:33:55
                         Actual results. - sprintcar STL - 9/13 14:47:23
                         That is silly and false. MU is at worst one of the top - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 13:56:10
                         Why do you hate the program, sprintcar? (nm) - Evenflow MU - 9/13 13:54:14
                         Historically, we're top 25-30. "Dominate" is a bit much - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 13:45:53
                         that's simply factually incorrect, but go on. (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 13:42:58
                              You're actually right. I should have said slightly above - sprintcar STL - 9/13 14:58:09
                    Well, the administration hired Kim. - Evenflow MU - 9/13 13:25:44
               absolutely, it's our birth right - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 13:01:43
          I don't think the SEC contributed to our troubles. - mizzoudiehard MU - 9/13 12:36:56
          MU hired Kim Anderson (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 11:23:47
               you guys are being mean so I'm leaving forever - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 12:52:23
               they also hired haith who did missouri no favors(nm) - tmcats KSU - 9/13 11:25:59
                    He doesn't understand that the crap Haith did needed cleaned - Uncle John MU - 9/13 11:30:24
                         sure I do - I just don't accept the implication that Kim And - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 13:39:48
                         RE: He doesn't understand that the crap Haith did needed cleaned - TigerUppercut MU - 9/13 11:57:22
                              This is the truth. Did Haith leave Kim a tourney team? No. - StaleyTiger MU - 9/13 12:14:40
                                   well put (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 13:51:08
                              Then they will both will be gone, simple enough.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/13 12:02:32
                                   And you'll then be here repeatedly bad-mouthing Kim Anderson - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 14:25:39
     What's the coaches name from Mississippi State? - UMR85 MU - 9/13 11:03:16
          he gets more time like most coaches in the real world - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 13:06:03
          Does that make KA better in some way? Maybe you want - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 11:21:11
               Just a little jab at all the MU haters slobbering Howie - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 11:47:05
                    Thinking Howland would have been a much, much, much - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 13:41:10
                         Thats an illogical conclusion on your part - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 16:19:16
                         and his reward for being such a tremendous coach is to spend - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 15:03:44
          Howie - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 11:07:33
     Anderson's only made the tournament 1 time in 5 years? - XRob MU - 9/13 09:39:03
          He made a big mistake leaving MU - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 09:40:56
               He made a mistake leaving the Big 12 for the SEC. - StaleyTiger MU - 9/13 12:17:00
               Nope - Diamond Dave MU - 9/13 11:08:14
                    His system is the problem. Good players don't want to play - Uncle John MU - 9/13 11:14:32
                         I dunno about that. He's had like three top ten classes. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 12:58:57
                         His recruiting has been good there - wu-tangtiger MU - 9/13 11:29:21
                              RE: His recruiting has been good there - TigerUppercut MU - 9/13 11:55:58
                              Juco kids are probably the answer for him along with some - Uncle John MU - 9/13 11:32:27
                         Yep. "Hey run your a$$ off for 25+ mins a game - Diamond Dave MU - 9/13 11:19:22
                              "Hey run your a$$ off for 25+ mins a game - Rabbit Test MU - 9/13 11:26:50
                              And all you do in early season practices is run until you - Uncle John MU - 9/13 11:22:16
     Hopefully these teams do compete and the conference has - Uncle John MU - 9/13 09:29:10
     I could see UK jumping to the ACC someday(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 9/13 09:28:29
          I couldn't. UK is SEC 4 LYFE - HissingPrigs77 MU - 9/13 10:04:04
               RE: I couldn't. UK is SEC 4 LYFE - TigerUppercut MU - 9/13 12:00:50
          Maybe they could swap with Clemson or Florida St(nm) - Uncle John MU - 9/13 09:29:46
     RE: You seem to have cut off Missouri when you copied the - Newman MU - 9/13 09:11:39
          MU has an old white coach which makes a bunch of mid-MO - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 09:23:49
               you're an old timer so why aren't you happy - Jeff85 MU - 9/13 12:53:55
                    I'm not a bigot and I'm actually vested in MU being good in - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 13:54:12
                         Only bigots dislike Haif? - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 16:22:28
                              I'd argue calling him Haif constantly is a bit racist nm - TigerUppercut MU - 9/13 17:12:52
                                   Wrong. - Mr. Orange SU - 9/14 05:20:54
               They should be. The 3 years Prior to KA we had no coach - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 10:49:34
                    the prior 3 years doesn't make the current situation any bet - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 11:22:36
                    That certainly seemed to be the prevailing thought... - tigerdb MU - 9/13 11:16:41
          RE: You seem to have cut off Missouri when you copied the - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 09:15:15
     and to think that we havent won on the road in 2 years in - NWMizzouFan MU - 9/13 08:55:17
          we have barely won at home, which is frankly more amazing(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 09:02:25
               Thanks to fans like you - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 09:10:50
                    I had no role in hiring a D2 coach (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 09:13:31
                         You abandoned your team - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 09:19:48
                              By posting about them daily and watching all their games?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 9/13 09:22:38
                                   By calling players D2 - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 09:24:19
                                   By hoping they lose - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 09:23:42
                                        Why didn't your hoping they win work? don't be a - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 09:32:05
                                             False dichotomy - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 09:42:49
                                                  It isn't a dichotomy at all, let alone a false dichotomy. - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 10:02:12
                                                       Wrong. Your comparison of me hoping for wins to - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 10:05:16
                                                            it isn't even a dichotomy. there isn't a forced choice betw - 90Tiger MU - 9/13 11:23:30
                                                                 Misstating the argument now - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 11:48:56
                                        Even if he did hope the lose I doubt that has - TheWildcat STL - 9/13 09:27:40
                                             He isnt the only one not going to games to cheer for - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 09:43:50
                                                  Are you going to games to support Kim Anderson? - tigerdb MU - 9/13 11:44:32
                                                       I never went to the games in Columbia regardless of coach - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 11:50:26
                                                            did you go to Kim's games in Warrensburg? - tigerdb MU - 9/13 12:02:15
                                                                 No. I prefer watching basketball on tv - Mr. Orange SU - 9/13 12:33:57




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