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Posted on: August 18, 2016 at 14:02:39 CT
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Crews was an assistant under Majerus and then when Majerus got sick he was given the interim head coaching position. After that season in which they had a historically good season with Majerus' players, he was given a 5 year contract to lead the program. He had considerable success in year #2 (year #1 of that contract) again with Majerus' players and then essentially hit rock bottom the following 2 seasons when the Majerus players had all moved on. So he inherited a tournament team and then when his players got on campus it was clear they were not at that level. There was literally no question as to whether Crews should be fired as nobody could defend him any longer. There was little way a fan could see things trending in the right direction with Crews and his players (there was also some internal turmoil between Crews and his players).

With KA he inherited a roster that was in a rough spot and failed with that roster in year #1 and then a combination of players he inherited/recruited late in the 2014 class/recruited in the 2015 class. In year #3 we are just now seeing a roster of his players, so most fans understood the decision to give him this season. If he fails again this season, nobody will be able to defend KA.

So we are essentially a year behind where Crews and SLU were at. Assuming similar results on the court, I fully expect that the same decision will be made. I just hope we do it quickly and identify our next coach quickly similar to SLU.

Edited by TheLegend at 14:06:40 on 08/18/16
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Tate trying to flip Jeremiah Tilmon to SLU? - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 08:51:01
     Who - Mr. Orange SU - 8/18 16:13:49
     The Eagles are now really pushing kids to SLU - TheLegend MU - 8/18 14:19:45
          So the Eagles, as has always seemed to be the case - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 15:09:57
               My understanding was they typically stayed out of recruiting - TheLegend MU - 8/18 15:18:32
                    Didnt they previously do that for Donovan at UF?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 15:26:03
                         The same crew behind the Eagles are the same people - Uncle John MU - 8/18 17:57:16
                         That is not my understanding - TheLegend MU - 8/18 15:29:58
                              A lot of people have felt for a long time that the Eagles - alwaysright MU - 8/18 18:21:55
                              There used to be a guy, think his handle was something - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 15:37:19
                                   I remember that guy. But I don't remember him posting here. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 15:42:40
                                        Maybe that was it, and I'm just recalling references to - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 15:45:52
                                             Were you looking for material - Mormad MU - 8/18 15:56:06
                                                  No, my handle is Fijitiger(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 16:03:04
                                   "Crispy Cream" - tigerdb MU - 8/18 15:41:34
                    Just seems odd that they'd do that for SLU only. - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 15:24:07
                         Doesn't seem that odd - there are two factors - - tigerdb MU - 8/18 15:38:12
                         Agreed. Not sure what caused the sudden change (nm) - TheLegend MU - 8/18 15:25:39
                              What change?(nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/18 17:58:57
          Lol. God, we just continually fvck shyt up - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 15:09:35
               I am not sure whether it is really us on this one - TheLegend MU - 8/18 15:23:31
          Smells like funny business... - MUIntensity USA - 8/18 14:24:08
               yes it does. NCAA will do nothing or do something stupid.(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/18 14:25:50
     You use to always say you didn't pay attention to - SabertoothTiger MU - 8/18 13:39:53
          I think I have also on multiple ocaccsions now clarified - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 13:42:42
     Missouri wouldn't give Tate a 2 year contract - what a - alstl MU - 8/18 11:42:36
          Tate did nothing as assistant coach - Mutiger MU - 8/18 15:15:21
               RE: Didn't he bring us Barnett? - missinglink MU - 8/18 15:26:49
          The cluster is our head coach. 3 conference wins for 2... - Lerxst MU - 8/18 14:14:11
          No indication that retaining Tate would have brought in any - tigerdb MU - 8/18 13:24:59
               It wouldn't have for the 2017 kids, not sure beyond that nm - TheLegend MU - 8/18 14:21:11
               Recruit mentioned Tate as the reason he chose SLU - alstl MU - 8/18 13:57:08
                    Goodwin also really wanted to go to SLU - TheLegend MU - 8/18 14:09:31
               It's true....so if he's able to at SLU then - Mormad MU - 8/18 13:27:23
                    For Goodwin, St. Louis being home was a big factor - TheLegend MU - 8/18 14:12:15
                    Ford vs. Anderson - zodiac6 JC - 8/18 13:41:12
                    RE: It's true....so if he's able to at SLU then - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 13:40:41
                         I wouldn't use Goodwin in your narrative, it just isn't true - TheLegend MU - 8/18 14:17:44
                    We've had multiple combinations of all of those the past - sprintcar STL - 8/18 13:34:19
                         Have we had their AAU coach on staff? - tigerdb MU - 8/18 13:37:29
                              Why people continue to fail to connect the dots to Norm - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/18 14:06:18
                                   I don't fail to connect the dots... - tigerdb MU - 8/18 14:19:45
                                        Unfortunately I have to agree with a lot of what you have - MizzouTigerz MU - 8/18 14:44:45
          Yes in some cases you reap what you sow (nm) - MakeShift MU - 8/18 12:38:20
     Where were these gets in his short time at MU?(nm) - kietzmanh8r MU - 8/18 11:16:04
     I don't know which would be worse for us. - StaleyTiger MU - 8/18 09:47:10
          SLU Is going to be better than us for a little bit. Might as - TheWildcat STL - 8/18 11:13:52
               Does that mean years of annoying *****ing - PHM MU - 8/18 12:11:43
               It's sad when a school like SLU can see a coach that can't - StaleyTiger MU - 8/18 12:06:31
                    Not really an apples to apples comparison - TheLegend MU - 8/18 14:02:39
                    RE: It's sad when a school like SLU can see a coach that can't - stl0404 MU - 8/18 12:14:55
                         Kim never would have been hired had he not played here. - StaleyTiger MU - 8/18 12:21:25
               We need to worry about ourselves, not SLU, so good for them(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 11:14:33
          RE: With only a few exceptions, Mizzou & SLU ....... - missinglink MU - 8/18 10:05:10
               With Ford as their coach I can see that changing.(nm) - StaleyTiger MU - 8/18 10:31:36
                    With KA as MU's coach, it had already changed from the - 90Tiger MU - 8/18 10:57:54
                         Somebody tell this coward to quit blocking and fight - Mr. Orange SU - 8/18 16:15:43
                         ^^^Does not follow college bball, opinion irrelevant(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 10:59:32
          If they become a great mid-major, we won't be - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 09:55:20
               RE: If they become a great mid-major, we won't be - stl0404 MU - 8/18 12:15:30
               SLU was clearly better than MU the last 2 or 3 years - Jeff85 MU - 8/18 11:40:33
                    RE: SLU was clearly better than MU the last 2 or 3 years - StlWeir MU - 8/18 13:40:01
                    No they weren't. Mizzou was clearly the better team than - StaleyTiger MU - 8/18 11:59:56
               He likely chose UTA because he couldn't get pt here, - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 10:37:35
                    Its not blatant, I'm not aware of that being the case - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 10:43:26
                         Every player we signed this past year had power 5 offers - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 11:12:52
                              I don't think that is actually the case - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 12:15:04
                                   Similarly Mitchell Smith took visits to Creighton and - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 13:48:49
                                        You act as if those are inferior programs, - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 14:11:29
                                   This article is false then, - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 13:08:03
                                        That is crazy, our classes the last two years are nothing - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 13:36:20
                                             Our current classes of Fr and So, are better than - alwaysright MU - 8/18 22:06:45
                                             It's not crazy at all, look at the recruiting rankings of - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 14:14:36
                                        Definitely not an expert, but several of the articles I read - MU-TULSA MU - 8/18 13:25:15
                                             RE: Definitely not an expert, but several of the articles I read - tigerdb MU - 8/18 13:36:15
                                   Columbia tribune, recruiting experts -feefee(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 12:16:24
                                        Are you saying his visits aren't accurate? - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 12:28:33
                                             Yeah sure feefee that's what I'm saying lolll(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 12:36:37
                                                  Feel pretty comfortable they accurately reported where he - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 12:54:13
                                                       Why did you conveniently leave out that - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 13:09:39
                                                            Because I do not believe we recruited against and beat - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 13:38:56
                                                            historically better than Mizzou?? Give me a break, - MU-TULSA MU - 8/18 13:33:05
                                                                 Iowa has 5 elite eights & 4 final fours, - nerdmachine KC - 8/18 17:26:53
                                                       Maybe you and Staley can go have a beer now(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 13:03:33
                              They weren't commitable. - StaleyTiger MU - 8/18 11:19:55
                                   you have no idea whether they were committable or not - Jeff85 MU - 8/18 11:37:16
               lol shut up feefee, good grief(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 09:56:39
                    he makes a good point. We lost a recruit to UTA of all - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/18 10:09:21
                         We only win 10 again, Kim will no longer be recruiting - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 10:25:05
                              the sunshine pumpers will still tell us Kim hasnt had enough - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/18 10:27:12
                                   I don't think he survives another year of 10 wins - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 10:37:40
                                   No they won't beaker(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 10:34:16
                         Nah, I highly doubt we lost some 2 star bum - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 10:23:08
                              He wanted more pt than Mizzou was offering - wu-tangtiger MU - 8/18 10:26:13
                              the guy who came here for a visit that ended up signing with - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/18 10:26:03
                                   Who cares, he blows, would have been a waste of a scholly(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 10:33:39
                                        so Fiji was correct we lost a guy to UTA(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/18 10:34:44
                                             Not a loss unless you're a moran(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 10:35:17
          it wouldn't really matter - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 09:50:54
               RE: it wouldn't really matter - FIJItiger MU - 8/18 09:58:16
                    Agree, we've never got much from STL - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 8/18 10:07:54
     KA made a great choice with Tate #trueson (nm) - Da_Haze KC - 8/18 09:25:41




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