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The decision to avoid transfers has been hugely detrimental

Posted on: July 21, 2016 at 08:54:04 CT
FIJItiger MU
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The discussion of recruiting below focuses almost exclusively on incoming freshman, but the reality is outside of portions of the Quin Snyder years (who was capable of elite national recruiting) MU has ALWAYS been largely dependent on incoming transfer talent.

Here is a year by year summary of the last 40 yrs, although I didn't include all transfers or even transfers that started for those teams.

1975: Best Player transfer Willie Smith
1976: Best player transfer Willie Smith
1977: 2nd best player transfer Clay Johnson
1978: Best Player transfer Clay Johnson
1979: 2nd best player transfer Steve Wallace
1981: Best player transfer Ricky Frazier
1982: Best player transfer Ricky Frazier
1984: Best player transfer Malcolm Thomas
1985: Best player transfer Malcolm Thomas
1986: 2nd best player transfer Jeff Strong
1988: 2nd best player transfer Byron Irvin
1989: Best player transfer Byron Irvin
1993: 3rd best player transfer Mark Atkins
1994: integral transfers Mark Atkins, Paul O’liney, Julian Winfield
1995: Best player transfer Paul O’liney
1996: integral transfers Julian Winfield, Haley twins, Corey Tate
1997: integral transfers Tyron Lee, Corey Tate, and Dibi Ray
1998: 2nd, 3rd, and 4th best players transfers Albert White, John Woods, and Tyron Lee
1999: Best player transfer Albert White
Quin Years
2007: Best player transfer Stefhon Hannah
2008: best player transfer Stefhon Hannah, 2nd best transfer Demarre Carroll
2009: best player transfer Demarre Carroll
2010: integral transfers Zaire Taylor and Keith Ramsey
2011: 2nd best player transfer Ricardo Ratliffe
2012: 2nd best player transfer Ricardo Ratliffe
2013: integral transfers Alex Oriakhi, Earnest Ross, Jabari Brown, Keion Bell
2014: integral transfers Jordan Clarkson, Jabari Brown, Earnest Ross


The notion that we had to distance ourselves from the approach Haith was taking (which was mainly an excuse for fans to hate on Haith) is what has caused this huge talent gap and led us to not have a roster that can realistically compete (obviously coupled with all of our outgoing transfers). Its too late now, but as a fanbase we have to get past the notion that taking transfers is a bad thing because when a competent staff does take over and tries to rebuild, they aren't going to try and foolishly do it predominantly with freshman and if they do they also will fail.
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The decision to avoid transfers has been hugely detrimental - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 08:54:04
     I agree 100%. We should have gone after JUCO, regular - MIZZOU_FANATIC MU - 7/21 13:51:29
          none were 2 stars - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/21 21:04:57
     RE: The decision to avoid transfers has been hugely detrimental - dont remember MU - 7/21 11:10:30
     Stop lumping Juco's and D1 transfers together. - alwaysright MU - 7/21 11:09:30
          They are simply different kinds of incoming transfers(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 12:13:17
               Then quit treating them the same. - alwaysright MU - 7/21 20:59:10
     Where do I tell Nick that he is losing viewers because - markymarksthirdnipple STL - 7/21 10:50:07
          Keep ignoring the facts I guess. Fiji knows what he's - mosoblkcougar MU - 7/21 13:56:36
          There is a function called TBIM which allows for - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 12:12:37
     Completely agree (nm) - TheLegend MU - 7/21 10:38:30
     RE: The decision to avoid transfers has been hugely detrimental - Tgrweir MU - 7/21 10:08:51
          Shamburger was a Sham!(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/21 10:09:31
     We needed to limit the transfers. The amount under Haith - tgr MU - 7/21 09:08:08
          He's a fruit loop, not sure where he comes up with this - Uncle John MU - 7/21 09:10:45
     but we have 5 transfers. - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 09:06:39
          5? You counting walkons? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/21 09:23:21
               Yes. I was counting Rau and Glassman. But my real point is - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 09:27:54
                    Its not though - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:37:50
                         RE: Its not though - Tgrweir MU - 7/21 10:16:35
                              Its a hypothetical, a reasonable hypothetical - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 10:38:54
                         lol(nm) - Uncle John MU - 7/21 10:01:50
                         Do you play fantasy sports? - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 09:51:05
                              Used to play fantasy football, back when it was - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:54:09
                                   RE: Used to play fantasy football, back when it was - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 10:00:19
                                        Indeed. Can't wait until it can become a source - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 10:37:08
          Now we do, after the window of opportunity has closed - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:18:05
               I disagree. The problem wan't bringing HS guys, the problem - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 09:23:14
                    They are gone because they were put in roles they couldn't - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:28:24
                         RE: They are gone because they were put in roles they couldn't - Tgrweir MU - 7/21 10:22:08
                         "Normal roles" would have necessitated - MNTIGER MU - 7/21 09:44:31
                              Which is the point of my post - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:47:02
                         pffft. nm - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 09:29:01
                              Look at Derrick Grimm/Jason Sutherland - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:33:23
                                   Or maybe being trown into the fire against IL made them - bornoncampus MU - 7/21 09:36:57
                                        They played in the double overtime because everyone - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:44:42
     stop. We aren't avoiding transfers. Just shut up. Go - SabertoothTiger MU - 7/21 09:00:51
          No thanks. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/21 09:02:13




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