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Look, I don't disagree about Natural Rights

Posted on: July 3, 2024 at 10:41:09 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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I do disagree with their obnoxious purity that others who support laws that project their views and morality are 100% wrong to do so, yet their strong belief in Natural Law is somehow the view all must bow to as a starting point without question. They claim it is a fact rather than a belief and all must agree to that. I am not sure how they can do that without coming across as deeply hypocritical.

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America haters, tomorrow is Independence Day. I look - hokie VT - 7/3 08:43:13

Sadly, as each year goes by, I more so celebrate what - Outsider MU - 7/3 10:23:42

Are you talking about the posters who mock the idea - CulturedDan KC - 7/3 09:10:04

I love the Fourth of July. Great summer holiday. - ummmm MU - 7/3 08:55:19

You favor insurrection? Since the govt is destructive to - hokie VT - 7/3 09:32:24

I favor decentralization of power and reversion to the - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:39:12

Now you say that although ALL taxation is theft, you want - hokie VT - 7/3 09:42:10

All taxation is theft. I want as little theft as possible. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:43:12

So SOME theft is ok. Does that apply to everyone or just to - hokie VT - 7/3 09:55:22

Theft is never okay. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:58:15

But you still want some. As little as possible. Does that - hokie VT - 7/3 10:02:18

I don't want any theft ever. Why would I want that? - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:06:06

Because you cannot defend both your statements that ALL tax - hokie VT - 7/3 10:08:24

you're incapable of thinking beyond your beliefs (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 11:42:39

He never said he wanted " some theft" - CulturedDan KC - 7/3 10:16:32

But you don't NEED it to spoil. He NEEDS some taxation. nm - hokie VT - 7/3 10:32:29

no he didn't, you're inserting things to find your gotcha (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 11:43:08

He didn't say that either - despite your emphasis of it. - CulturedDan KC - 7/3 10:37:33

That's what liars do (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/3 10:49:24

All taxation is theft, and I don't want any theft. - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:15:45

You say all taxation is theft and you don't want ANY. Yet - hokie VT - 7/3 10:17:46

I listed the reverse heierarchy of palatble ways to fund a - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:22:42

You should't use words like palatable if you don't know the - hokie VT - 7/3 10:34:18

Now you're just being stupid(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 7/3 10:40:31

Now? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 11:45:40

yeah, simple and straight-forward, but hokie and folks like - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 09:23:37

I didn't know i wanted that. I always thought i wanted gov - hokie VT - 7/3 09:34:53

You might say that, but all of the rest of your posts - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:41:02

"...all the rest of my posts.." I don't believe i have EVER - hokie VT - 7/3 09:46:26

you defend gvmt at every turn and mock any voice - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 11:46:35

you defend big government at every turn(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/3 10:23:03

You imply it every day. I know you see yourself as a - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:50:12

The founders were brilliant with regard to what they set - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 09:00:10

They had the exact right ideas. - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:04:35

I think they were fully aware it would eventually fall in on - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 09:11:49

no way (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 11:47:14

If they were fully aware of that, then we shouldn't - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:13:57

There is no system you can build that will for all of time - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 09:33:51

I still say term limits will mitigate if not solve that, nm - hokie VT - 7/3 09:39:05

Term limits will do nothing of the sort(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/3 10:24:37

If you actually believe that and recognize that, then - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:36:47

because it is not based on reality - meatiger MU - 7/3 10:25:10

I don't disagree with the notion we should return - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 09:45:29

We talk to our friends, family members, and colleagues and - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:51:55

Wow, you have all the answers. All we have to do is talk to - hokie VT - 7/3 10:00:04

Hokie, with all due respect (however much is truly due to - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:12:19

I will when they get real about the how the choices of today - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 09:58:59

If you're talking about R and D as the choices of today, - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:14:20

And that is your belief - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 10:19:21

It's really not. I certainly have beliefs and morals. - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:24:03

While I don't disagree - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 10:29:12

Yup. Ummm and the idiots are imbued with righteousness - hokie VT - 7/3 10:38:07

Look, I don't disagree about Natural Rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 10:41:09

Fine. While you and i don't agree totally on natural rights - hokie VT - 7/3 11:00:02

I would say this - the goverment works to protect those - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 11:34:56

You say you want LIMITED govt but with absolutely no tax - hokie VT - 7/3 09:40:49

The reverse heierarchy of palatable govt funding mechanisms: - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:42:37

Lotteries? - SwampTiger MU - 7/3 10:03:13

Voluntary donations. (nm) - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:09:29

user fee - SwampTiger MU - 7/3 10:14:17

Yeah, you're right. I should just add it as No. 2 and its - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:15:04

Why tariffs over sales tax? (nm) - haeffb MU - 7/3 10:00:09

Because tariffs (without an income tax behind them) - ummmm MU - 7/3 10:11:19

Interesting. I might put sales tax - haeffb MU - 7/3 10:33:03

You say ALL taxation is theft and list ten items, SIX of - hokie VT - 7/3 09:53:24

Yes, all taxation is theft. We should work to have as - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:57:52

Of course, we should only celebrate perfection. You forgot - hokie VT - 7/3 09:21:28

I didn't say that. I said that if they knew the federal - ummmm MU - 7/3 09:34:37

Silly deflection. It is the most omnipotent machine - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 7/3 09:30:15

it's not in the conversation of perfection. It's a grotesqu - 90Tiger STL - 7/3 09:24:35

merica hater ^^^^ (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/3 08:58:44

You should show this post to a therapist (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 7/3 08:49:46

lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/3 08:53:07

Far from a perfect country to be sure - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 08:48:57

We have spilled more blood than others?? - meatiger MU - 7/3 08:52:59

That you have to ask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/3 08:59:13

It certainly is not the former(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/3 08:59:38

I think he means - haeffb MU - 7/3 09:05:07

Why would you spend the day reading that?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/3 08:45:14

Probably won't take all day. Nm - hokie VT - 7/3 08:55:27

Any time of day - meatiger MU - 7/3 08:56:31

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