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Posted on: February 22, 2024 at 14:46:50 CT
meatiger
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Henderson vs. New York- 1875(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:12:54
If you're going to keep appealing to court decisions as
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 12:33:28
The problem with scotus, of course is that there are some
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hokie
VT
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2/22 12:59:01
don't be hijacking this thread with your bull****(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:00:01
Sorry. Nm
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hokie
VT
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2/22 13:33:11
all good hokie(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:42:20
yeah, that's the problem, hokie
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:59:36
are they not the most objective way to interpret a very
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:37:05
they would be if they weren't so corrupt
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JG
A
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2/22 13:32:19
Also, the Constitution is NOT a subjective document
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:52:41
all texts are subjective
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:59:12
That doesn't make the text itself subjective.
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 13:14:35
no text has meaning
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:21:06
So you do support the concept of a living Constitution? (nm)
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 13:23:04
I support the idea that the constitution can be intepreted
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:25:37
so yes, you think the constitution is a living document
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:29:37
I guess to serve as guardrails for policy and govt.(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:34:47
lol, really? I know you typed this and thought "well, that
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 19:49:12
how does that work if its subjective
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:37:41
it doesn't, really
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:39:39
So, there is no original meaning and it is a living document
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 13:28:28
it can be amended, so I guess it is a living document
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:31:16
also, read Article III (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:39:17
an amendment process is not what is meant by living document
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:38:41
no, Jefferson said himself that it's a living document
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:41:45
RE: no, Jefferson said himself that it's a living document
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:58:50
what? no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:49:05
RE: what? no (nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:59:23
1. Paywall 2. He is not saying the constitution
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pickle
MU
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2/22 14:11:17
no, a living document is something that can be updated and
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 14:21:46
no. that is 100% incorrect
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pickle
MU
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2/22 14:35:59
sure it is
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 14:43:35
it’s not (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 15:01:27
LOL
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 15:04:27
you're wrong in this thread, Bill (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 19:50:35
Well done
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 13:22:22
nah
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:25:07
false (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:08:54
oof.
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/22 12:44:11
The Supreme Court isn't objective.
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 12:41:15
9 of them discussing and researching an issue breeds more
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:43:50
the research part
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meatiger
MU
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2/22 14:46:50
I would trust my HVAC guy over a lawyer to read and
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 12:53:08
and you think his political preferences won't drive
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:54:25
I don't think he has much of any. I certainly think he has
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 12:56:01
He also likely doesn't have a debt to pay to a particular
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 12:58:12
you act like no justice has ever gone against party
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:01:27
no, that's a quantum leap straw man (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 19:51:59
I'm not acting like that. I'm saying they're more biased
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 13:05:09
what is an "every day Republican or Democrat"?
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:11:08
Someone that typically votes along party lines
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 13:17:52
how am I making your point for you?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:28:06
what is a “common citizen”? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:17:06
someone that hasn't spent half of their life learning
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:26:30
just like many of the “founding fathers,” right? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:32:11
sure
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:38:50
If the bar is a common citizen, fine.
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 12:47:33
there is no such thing as an "unbiased" citizen
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:53:23
Clearly you knew what I meant as you even added
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 12:54:46
my goodness, stop(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/22 12:47:02
this is where you’ve shut off your brain (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:46:55
no. the first source would be the ratification debates
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:40:04
First source is plain and ordinary meaning of the text
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 12:48:49
yes (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:55:20
you're asking if a federal branch of government
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:38:24
"most" is relative
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:40:15
rethink your views on SCOTUS, Bill (nm)
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90Tiger
STL
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2/22 19:53:56
oh dear (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:41:17
do you let the fox guard the hen house? (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:40:45
if it was as simple as that, why have there been rulings
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:44:34
It is mildly amusing watching you debate a bizarre cult
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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2/22 12:50:00
Side topic...
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 13:00:29
he's in the Q cult and feels dirty
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 13:37:32
shhhhh(nm)
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/22 13:35:26
Also, pickle and other libertarians support individualism.
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ummmm
MU
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2/22 13:24:28
sounds like what a cult would say
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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2/22 15:35:33
LOL(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:52:32
the mask slips (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/22 12:56:01
huh?(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 12:56:57
trolling
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pickle
MU
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2/22 13:14:54
I'm not trolling, just found Ray's post funny(nm)
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Fire Marshall Bill
MU
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2/22 13:27:31
ahem
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CulturedDan
MU
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2/22 12:51:53
Aw puddin'(nm)
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RayKinsella1922
SEC
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2/22 12:52:29
There are still 2 parties, right? (nm)
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kmawv8
MU
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2/22 12:48:49
politics (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/22 12:47:48
Spinks vs Ali-1978
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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2/22 12:31:36