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there is no such thing as an "unbiased" citizen

Posted on: February 22, 2024 at 12:53:23 CT
Fire Marshall Bill STL
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maybe in terms of party affiliation and loyalty, yes

but everyone has biases
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Henderson vs. New York- 1875(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:12:54
     If you're going to keep appealing to court decisions as - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 12:33:28
          The problem with scotus, of course is that there are some - hokie VT - 2/22 12:59:01
               don't be hijacking this thread with your bull****(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:00:01
                    Sorry. Nm - hokie VT - 2/22 13:33:11
                         all good hokie(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:42:20
               yeah, that's the problem, hokie - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:59:36
          are they not the most objective way to interpret a very - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:37:05
               they would be if they weren't so corrupt - JG A - 2/22 13:32:19
               Also, the Constitution is NOT a subjective document - pickle MU - 2/22 12:52:41
                    all texts are subjective - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:59:12
                         That doesn't make the text itself subjective. - ummmm MU - 2/22 13:14:35
                              no text has meaning - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:21:06
                                   So you do support the concept of a living Constitution? (nm) - ummmm MU - 2/22 13:23:04
                                        I support the idea that the constitution can be intepreted - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:25:37
                                             so yes, you think the constitution is a living document - pickle MU - 2/22 13:29:37
                                                  I guess to serve as guardrails for policy and govt.(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:34:47
                                                       lol, really? I know you typed this and thought "well, that - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 19:49:12
                                                       how does that work if its subjective - pickle MU - 2/22 13:37:41
                                                            it doesn't, really - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:39:39
                                             So, there is no original meaning and it is a living document - ummmm MU - 2/22 13:28:28
                                                  it can be amended, so I guess it is a living document - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:31:16
                                                       also, read Article III (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 13:39:17
                                                       an amendment process is not what is meant by living document - pickle MU - 2/22 13:38:41
                                                            no, Jefferson said himself that it's a living document - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:41:45
                                                                 RE: no, Jefferson said himself that it's a living document - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:58:50
                                                                 what? no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 13:49:05
                                                                      RE: what? no (nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:59:23
                                                                           1. Paywall 2. He is not saying the constitution - pickle MU - 2/22 14:11:17
                                                                                no, a living document is something that can be updated and - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 14:21:46
                                                                                     no. that is 100% incorrect - pickle MU - 2/22 14:35:59
                                                                                          sure it is - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 14:43:35
                                                                                               it’s not (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 15:01:27
                                                                                                    LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 15:04:27
                                                                                                         you're wrong in this thread, Bill (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 19:50:35
                                   Well done - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 13:22:22
                                        nah - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:25:07
                         false (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 13:08:54
               oof. - CulturedDan MU - 2/22 12:44:11
               The Supreme Court isn't objective. - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 12:41:15
                    9 of them discussing and researching an issue breeds more - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:43:50
                         the research part - meatiger MU - 2/22 14:46:50
                         I would trust my HVAC guy over a lawyer to read and - ummmm MU - 2/22 12:53:08
                              and you think his political preferences won't drive - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:54:25
                                   I don't think he has much of any. I certainly think he has - ummmm MU - 2/22 12:56:01
                                        He also likely doesn't have a debt to pay to a particular - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 12:58:12
                                             you act like no justice has ever gone against party - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:01:27
                                                  no, that's a quantum leap straw man (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 19:51:59
                                                  I'm not acting like that. I'm saying they're more biased - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 13:05:09
                                                       what is an "every day Republican or Democrat"? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:11:08
                                                            Someone that typically votes along party lines - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 13:17:52
                                                                 how am I making your point for you?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:28:06
                                                            what is a “common citizen”? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 13:17:06
                                                                 someone that hasn't spent half of their life learning - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:26:30
                                                                      just like many of the “founding fathers,” right? (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 13:32:11
                                                                           sure - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:38:50
                         If the bar is a common citizen, fine. - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 12:47:33
                              there is no such thing as an "unbiased" citizen - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:53:23
                                   Clearly you knew what I meant as you even added - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 12:54:46
                         my goodness, stop(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 2/22 12:47:02
                         this is where you’ve shut off your brain (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:46:55
               no. the first source would be the ratification debates - pickle MU - 2/22 12:40:04
                    First source is plain and ordinary meaning of the text - ummmm MU - 2/22 12:48:49
                         yes (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:55:20
               you're asking if a federal branch of government - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:38:24
                    "most" is relative - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:40:15
                         rethink your views on SCOTUS, Bill (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 2/22 19:53:56
                         oh dear (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:41:17
                         do you let the fox guard the hen house? (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:40:45
                              if it was as simple as that, why have there been rulings - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:44:34
                                   It is mildly amusing watching you debate a bizarre cult - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/22 12:50:00
                                        Side topic... - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 13:00:29
                                             he's in the Q cult and feels dirty - ashtray UF - 2/22 13:37:32
                                             shhhhh(nm) - CulturedDan MU - 2/22 13:35:26
                                             Also, pickle and other libertarians support individualism. - ummmm MU - 2/22 13:24:28
                                                  sounds like what a cult would say - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/22 15:35:33
                                        LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:52:32
                                             the mask slips (nm) - pickle MU - 2/22 12:56:01
                                                  huh?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 12:56:57
                                                       trolling - pickle MU - 2/22 13:14:54
                                                            I'm not trolling, just found Ray's post funny(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 2/22 13:27:31
                                        ahem - CulturedDan MU - 2/22 12:51:53
                                             Aw puddin'(nm) - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 2/22 12:52:29
                                   There are still 2 parties, right? (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 2/22 12:48:49
                                   politics (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/22 12:47:48
     Spinks vs Ali-1978 - JayHoaxH8r MU - 2/22 12:31:36




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