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Screw Iowa, but while it may be technically correct

Posted on: October 23, 2023 at 12:52:14 CT
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To interpret the rule that way, I have never seen it interpreted in that manner.

A fair catch signal must be a clear back and forth above the head. An invalid fair catch signal has always been some kind of half assed motion at or above head level that does not meet the clear back-and-forth.

However, I have also never seen a kick returner try and wave guys off of the ball while only using one arm. I have always seen them do that with both arms making essentially an incomplete pass signal.

One thing that needs to come out of this is that football needs to adopt a 5 yard penalty for an invalid fair catch signal. If a valid signal and an invalid signal both have the same result, what is the point of differentiating between the two?
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Did Iowa get screwed on the punt return call? - bluesox7 MU - 10/23 12:05:53
     RE: Did Iowa get screwed on the punt return call? - tmb333 MU - 10/23 18:48:21
     Yes and if that’s the standard for what - justwinbaby KC - 10/23 17:18:13
     No, it was the right call according to the rule, BUT I've - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 12:29:35
          RE: No, it was the right call according to the rule, BUT I've - tmb333 MU - 10/23 18:50:26
          You are ALLOWED to do that, that is why youve seen that. - tigerman81 MU - 10/23 18:40:21
          Watch they will change the rule after the season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 13:32:30
               If they do change it then I would teach my punt return team - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:44:32
          Screw Iowa, but while it may be technically correct - alwaysright MU - 10/23 12:52:14
               Well, he was pointing with his right hand and waiving people - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 13:18:41
                    Because it is illegal to use a fake fair catch signal - alwaysright MU - 10/23 13:29:26
                         He wasn’t trying to fake a fair catch signal - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 13:36:29
                              It doesn't matter if he was intending to call a fair catch - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:00:40
                                   It was not a normal get away signal. - alwaysright MU - 10/23 14:32:48
                                        This is why I bet we see a change related to this rule - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:35:42
                                             You are clueless. The NCAA isn't changing a long - tigerman81 MU - 10/23 18:13:31
                                                  It’s easy to argue that he didn’t signal anything - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 19:17:35
                                                       No its not easy to argue that. - tigerman81 MU - 10/23 20:36:19
                                                            There should be an actual penalty for an invalid signal. - alwaysright MU - 10/24 07:23:08
                                                            It seems to me that it should be that if you don't make a - JeffB MU - 10/23 21:38:52
                                                                 Leaves too much chance for ambigulity. - tigerman81 MU - 10/23 22:27:01
                                                            Yes you can argue that he wasn’t waived - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 20:47:46
                                                                 LOL, did he or did he not waive his hand?(nm) - tigerman81 MU - 10/23 22:21:41
                                                                      According to him no - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/24 07:35:34
                                                                           It doesn't matter what the hell he said he did, it shows on - tigerman81 MU - 10/24 11:15:40
                                   I agree, correct call. And why would a rule change be ... - Tigerborn MU - 10/23 14:10:17
                                        The NCAA usually addresses these - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:19:27
                                             That is because there wasn't a fair catch signal and nobody - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:21:35
                                                  Here are his words again. According to him - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:31:30
                                                       He never said he wasn't trying to waive people off. You - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:40:55
                                                            He never said he was. This is why I am betting a rule change - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:44:21
                                                                 I don't believe that is true. Watch #17 for Iowa in this - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:46:29
                                                                      I might buy what you are saying on 17 - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:52:56
                                                                           I could see maybe coming up with a deliberate get - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:59:15
                                                                                Agree the NCAA to to remove the refs having to - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 15:26:35
                                                       naturally running to the football.. lol - bluesox7 MU - 10/23 14:37:17
                                   I am betting we see a change in that rule - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/23 14:07:07
                                        I haven't heard him say that. What was he pointing at? - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:20:57
                              That is correct, he was not trying to, but what he did - alwaysright MU - 10/23 13:39:20
                                   You've never seen a returner point to where the ball is - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 15:01:28
                                        Never point with one hand and wave the other around, no - alwaysright MU - 10/23 15:57:39
                                             If you watch this at the very beginning he is pointing with - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 16:25:23
     no, but the rule needs to change(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 10/23 12:29:09
          If you are motioning for people to get away, and then - bluesox7 MU - 10/23 12:42:25
     No (nm) - samclemens MU - 10/23 12:23:42
     Correct call - Iam4Mizzou MU - 10/23 12:16:09
     no(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 10/23 12:15:32
     according to the rule, no - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 10/23 12:12:57
     No I just think you cannot do something like that - Genco98 MU - 10/23 12:11:21
     If the returner motions for his players to get away - hou4mu MU - 10/23 12:10:55
          He wasn't penalized. The ball was return the point where it - tigerman81 MU - 10/23 20:42:00
          I didn't realize that was the actual rule - Eggs MU - 10/23 12:18:18
               Maybe a better question is has it been called consistently - XRob MU - 10/23 13:14:43
                    that is my issue with it. Tennessee fans claim it was - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 10/23 14:26:46
     No(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/23 12:08:25
     no. If you want to return the ball, don't make any - CulturedDan MU - 10/23 12:07:54
     Fvck Iowa but I think they did - Eggs MU - 10/23 12:06:40
          Also similar uniforms to Mizzou - Genco98 MU - 10/23 14:02:23




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