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indians didn’t claim land

Posted on: July 21, 2022 at 14:27:58 CT
pickle MU
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they did not claim ownership of land. further, Indian tribes were complex chiefdoms (and in some cases city states) that dwindled to simple chiefdoms. they were a gvmt and had been gvmt since big man “societies”
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question for the board - pickle MU - 7/21 13:02:45
     Question for pickle... - JeffB MU - 7/21 13:56:32
          pickle is the world's biggest coward and crybaby(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 7/21 14:49:54
          I have a question for JeffB - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:04:04
               There are some problems with your analogy. There is a - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:21:48
                    No, that's a much worse analogy. - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:54:26
                         I did answer your very straightforward question. I didn't - JeffB MU - 7/21 15:18:51
                              you didn't answer his question at all - pickle MU - 7/21 19:30:26
                         Jeff doesn’t answer questions (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 15:01:58
                    indians didn’t claim land - pickle MU - 7/21 14:27:58
                         Would you go set up camp next to some indian teepees - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:31:56
                              i don’t live in the southwest or the plains - pickle MU - 7/21 14:33:18
                                   OK, would you build a home in the middle of their huts and - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:36:48
                                        make your point, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 14:41:55
                                             Why won't you answer the question? I think your answer - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:53:58
                                                  make your point, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/21 15:01:24
                                                       Here's the question: 'would you build a home in the middle - JeffB MU - 7/21 15:11:14
                                                            no, i don’t want to build a house there - pickle MU - 7/21 15:16:40
                                                                 You wouldn't, because you know that you would be - JeffB MU - 7/21 15:22:46
                                                                      Also, i didn’t claim they aren’t or weren’t territorial - pickle MU - 7/21 15:35:23
                                                                      no, because i don’t want to live there - pickle MU - 7/21 15:29:34
               You've totally misstated what he said. - *M* KC - 7/21 14:17:50
                    pickle doesn't just 'disagree with something related to - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:30:36
                         I think you and I are in agreement. - *M* KC - 7/21 14:34:19
                              I'm sorry, I may have thought you were replying to my post - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:38:00
                         more false premises and dishonesty - pickle MU - 7/21 14:31:58
                              What do you think I said that is false, pickle? - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:35:27
                                   RE: What do you think I said that is false, pickle? - pickle MU - 7/21 14:40:08
                                        No ranting, let's just have a reasonable discussion here - JeffB MU - 7/21 15:09:00
                                             tl:dr (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 15:17:35
                                                  BS, your are a dishonest coward. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/21 17:36:21
                                                       no, Jeff - pickle MU - 7/21 18:31:47
                    JeffB's question to pickle was "given that.... - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:21:37
                         My point was that pickle did not, nor does he ever - *M* KC - 7/21 14:27:24
               it's a false dichotomy - ashtray UF - 7/21 14:13:49
          false premise - pickle MU - 7/21 14:03:09
               Liar - Tigrrrr! MU - 7/21 14:07:03
               Which premise(s) is/are false? Please expound. (nm) - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:05:04
                    no thanks - pickle MU - 7/21 14:07:52
          New Hampshire is moving towards libertarianism? lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/21 14:00:17
               You think the 'Free State Project' is a failure? - JeffB MU - 7/21 14:12:00
                    why can’t you ask questions honestly - pickle MU - 7/21 14:13:32
                         because that would require a shred of honesty - ashtray UF - 7/21 14:14:52
     wrong board. (nm) - bluesox7 MU - 7/21 13:44:07
     Force(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/21 13:41:17
     which government?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 13:31:00
          any and all (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 13:34:06
               many are not legitimate, they took power by force - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 13:42:59
                    Outside of government and its laws - meatiger MU - 7/21 13:49:00
                         Those who are born here are free to leave - Mormad MU - 7/21 13:55:57
                              completely irrelevant to the discussion and topic (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 13:56:58
                                   It was responsive to the immediately preceding post - Mormad MU - 7/21 13:58:26
                    ok, in the case of the US gvmt then - pickle MU - 7/21 13:47:39
                         no, the STATES each elected officials by popular vote - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 13:56:31
                              He said government in general. State or Federal. - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 13:59:32
                              maybe you missed the “any and all” answer - pickle MU - 7/21 13:58:14
                                   but I did not miss the "ok, in the case of the US gvmt then" - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 14:01:10
                                        beeeecause you said in the case of the US gvmt - pickle MU - 7/21 14:04:29
                                             as I stated, many gov't are NOT legit because they - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 14:06:45
                                                  there isn’t a single gvmt that exists by will of the people - pickle MU - 7/21 14:14:09
                                                  "will of the people" - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:08:03
     What evidence do you have that it is not? - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/21 13:25:11
          the burden of proof is on the one making the claim - pickle MU - 7/21 13:27:16
               Yes, you made the claim that it was not valid. One you seem - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/21 13:28:42
                    It's hard to prove a negative. Pickle is using a logical - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/21 13:37:35
                         There’s no logical trick here - pickle MU - 7/21 13:44:43
                              but legitimacy is when something is within the law - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 13:50:50
                                   no, that is not what legitimacy is or means - pickle MU - 7/21 13:56:17
                                        Definition of legitimate - transitive verb - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 13:59:38
                                   And, if a new group came and took over the US - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 13:54:03
                                        they only have to take over the Capitol - meatiger MU - 7/21 13:55:37
                                   Look at definition #2, sir. - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 13:51:56
                                        yes, and when people in each state elect reps - tigerinhogtown STL - 7/21 14:04:53
                                             begging the question (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 14:06:58
                                             So your answer to the question is an election? - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:06:00
                    you didn’t read the post (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 13:29:27
     I've received a letter signed by 45 retired consitutional - dangertim MU - 7/21 13:13:47
     That's easy - *M* KC - 7/21 13:08:15
          So because I choose to live near my family, that means - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 13:57:25
               Nope. - *M* KC - 7/21 14:13:58
                    This isn't a scary thought to you? - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:18:50
                         Not in the slightest. I've lived here for going on - *M* KC - 7/21 14:23:34
     RE: question for the board - Eggs MU - 7/21 13:07:34
          They did not charge you for the overhang?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/21 13:42:15
     People accept it. Next qustion?(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 7/21 13:04:09
          you didn’t answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 13:11:06
               Yes... yes he did. - Spanky KU - 7/21 13:15:04
                    So if I make counterfeit money but am able to dupe - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 13:55:35
                         Ask GAT(nm) - Spanky KU - 7/21 14:38:19
                    Typical pickle response. He tends to ignore answers if - SparkyStalcup MU - 7/21 13:38:40
                         GAT didn’t answer the question (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 13:45:09
                              He did. His answer was "acceptance" - Mormad MU - 7/21 13:59:27
                                   he didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 14:04:48
                                   that is not evidence - meatiger MU - 7/21 14:01:26
                                        Behavior can be evidence - Mormad MU - 7/21 14:03:32
                                             it’s not (nm) - pickle MU - 7/21 14:06:32
                                             Federal Rules of Evidence. Rule 406. - Mormad MU - 7/21 14:05:36
                                                  RE: Federal Rules of Evidence. Rule 406. - kmawv8 MU - 7/21 14:09:59
                                                       You confuse evidentiary with conclusory - Mormad MU - 7/21 14:14:45
                                                            what evidence is there that gvmt’s claims are legit - pickle MU - 7/21 14:20:23




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