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Generally, no. But there are exceptions. If someone is

Posted on: December 22, 2021 at 08:42:54 CT
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insane, or suffering a breakdown, or experiencing major PTSD symptoms, the government protecting him from leaping off a building to fly is appropriate. If the question becomes one of definition, again.

What is, “harming yourself“? Eating too many hotdogs and getting a tummyache should not require government intervention.

But an Alzheimer’s patient attempting to do consume hazardous waste products or chemicals should be stopped if possible.

Edited by hokie at 08:44:03 on 12/22/21
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Should government keep people from harming themselves? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/22 07:32:52
     Generally, no. But there are exceptions. If someone is - hokie VT - 12/22 08:42:54
          no, hokie (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 08:47:59
          There’s a long history of government using mental health - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/22 08:47:57
          That is an unworkable standard - ummmm MU - 12/22 08:47:25
               Sounds like you’re suggesting that government turn its back - hokie VT - 12/22 08:58:29
                    once again, hokie socialism/Marxism is the good socialism (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 09:14:38
                    Do you think, in the absence of government - meatiger MU - 12/22 09:05:37
                         I don’t know, do you? Who would you call? Or would you be - hokie VT - 12/22 09:14:46
                              well - meatiger MU - 12/22 09:27:27
                                   Is urgency a consideration? Should we ask the vet with PTSD - hokie VT - 12/22 09:39:04
                                        there is no such responsibility. You are arguing for slavery - pickle MU - 12/22 09:53:00
                                        Oh, you think government would react quicker than - kmawv8 MU - 12/22 09:47:29
                                        Who is more likely to be there for a near suicide - meatiger MU - 12/22 09:41:48
                              For example, we've been unable to count on the kindness of - ummmm MU - 12/22 09:19:34
                                   You're changing the subject, or at least the example. I - hokie VT - 12/22 09:41:28
                                        you're wrong - ashtray UF - 12/22 10:58:49
                                        I'm using your exact reasoning to further a public policy. - ummmm MU - 12/22 09:44:49
                                             Nah, instead he'd rather post the new word he just learned - kmawv8 MU - 12/22 09:46:54
                              wow (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 09:17:41
                    No, I'm not suggesting that all, because that would imply - ummmm MU - 12/22 09:03:16
                         Pure sophistry on your part. And disappointing, once - hokie VT - 12/22 09:23:05
                              you have no room to ever criticize socialists and Marxists - pickle MU - 12/22 09:33:53
                              RE: Pure sophistry on your part. And disappointing, once - ummmm MU - 12/22 09:31:29
                              thanks for the liberal view - ashtray UF - 12/22 09:27:33
                              lol, what in the holy hell? - kmawv8 MU - 12/22 09:25:34
                                   he makes rask look like a genius (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 09:34:50
                    You are unable to express your thoughts and engage - kmawv8 MU - 12/22 09:01:24
                         emotions are hard to control (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/22 09:02:19
          so the line is drawn at mental health of the individual for - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:45:39
     Nope(nm) - tman MU - 12/22 08:27:41
     That is one thing both parties completely agree on - meatiger MU - 12/22 08:26:43
          "full" gov't power. Sure. Oh, please give my quotes on that - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:38:31
               you have basically endorsed mandated vaccines - meatiger MU - 12/22 08:54:54
          GAT is a self-hating demlib (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:28:48
     What if the government thinks it's in your best interest - Gavin Citrus MU - 12/22 08:26:14
     Anyone who harms himself should get the electric chair. Nm - hokie VT - 12/22 08:03:25
          why can’t you participate in discussion? (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 08:15:52
               He’s dumb(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 12/22 08:45:54
               Lol(nm) - tman MU - 12/22 08:26:44
               it's an intelligence deficit (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:21:46
     YES, so long as the gov't is going to - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 07:55:24
          Lol so all fat people should be starved by the guvmint then(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 12/22 08:19:19
               Actually, they should decide to eat less. So far as - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:24:10
                    So choice to be Fat. No choice to be Vaxed. Got it(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 12/22 09:56:01
                    You said as long as government pays for any - meatiger MU - 12/22 08:28:00
                         Oh, did I ever mention....almost nothing is all or nothing.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:37:07
                              And do you understand - meatiger MU - 12/22 08:53:37
                                   Basicaly, yes. So what? Irrelevant to my arguments.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 09:54:56
                              Yes, you are firmly on record as to your - ummmm MU - 12/22 08:41:44
          no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 08:13:04
          that's the problem with socialism, GAT - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:00:19
               Mankind almost always overdoes whatever it tries to do.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:08:07
                    In a post about individualism - pickle MU - 12/22 08:14:30
                         "The point"? Ok. That would be what, exactly? - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:16:29
                              I just told you what it is (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 08:18:59
                                   Ok, give it to me again. I can't find it.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:24:55
                                        Lol…go back to bed(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/22 08:33:09
                    so don't do socialism at all. what's wrong with that? (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:09:32
                         Because almost nothing is all or nothing.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:13:04
                              non-responsive (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:21:09
                                   The rather obvious implication is that a - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 08:33:54
                                        no, GAT; it is never justified - pickle MU - 12/22 08:50:30
                                        socialism is never justified (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/22 08:37:55
                              Lazy (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 08:15:15
     I wish more people understood that last sentence - pickle MU - 12/22 07:48:51
          ^^^ Will soon be saying "no" to my post.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/22 07:56:35
               correct (nm) - pickle MU - 12/22 08:13:18




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