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Posted on: July 29, 2021 at 21:35:59 CT

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The payout won't be nearly as much, but that's already gone anyway. Effectively, as of today, they have no choice but to accept a smaller payout.

Add Houston
Add Cincinnati
Add Memphis
Add BYU
maube Central Florida

Or some combo of those 4

Believe it or not, it would be considered a P5 conference.

It would be a very good basketball conference and still have decent football programs.

It may slow realignment for a while.

You would think that over the next 10-15 years, one of those schools would emerge as a football power for the first time.

Maybe an Oklahoma State wins 8-10 conference titles and play for a couple of playoffs or titles, all of the sudden, they've made a national name brand that allows them to get into one of the big boy conferences.

The Big 12 has a bigger brand name than the AAC. Bigger than the MWC too.

Big 12's best course of action is to stick together with the 8 that remain, and add 4 schools that are pretty decent at football and basketball.

It would leave no doubt they would be in the top 5 behind SEC, B10, ACC and Pac12.

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Big 12 best course is to add 4 teams and stay a P5... - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 21:35:59

Cincy and BYU have been good at times, and so has Memphis... - Deputy Dawg MU - 9/2 16:41:46

Yeah, it will still be a very competitive conference... they - North co-co champs MU - 9/2 20:11:22

Apparently you’re not a P5 conference until ESPN says so - MoGold MU - 7/29 23:41:34

That wouldn't be considered a power conference. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:36:12

Not a P5 but a step above the rest of the mid-majors. - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/30 00:33:54

Of course it would be (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:47:21

It would absolutely not be (nm) - Cosmo MU

- 7/30 10:04:07

Nope..nm - bcoop199 KC - 7/29 23:10:02

lmao no - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:50:15

nope, not even close (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:49:27

Link - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:52:28

He's right that the Big12 can survive, but he's wrong that - zounami MU - 7/29 23:24:29

They would still be considered P5 (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 7/30 09:28:18

Ok, you & the Oklahoman are right, everyone else is wrong. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/30 13:17:57

Impossible to remain P5 - alwaysright MU - 7/29 22:05:04

correct... it wouldn't even be close (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:39:24

adding 4 teams, they'd stay a P5 (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:16:21

No. - alwaysright MU - 7/30 12:29:30

I don't think so. (nm) - Lerxst MU

- 7/30 09:27:07

no... not even close (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:36:54

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:18:55

Yep that's a fact they'd be a P5 (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:25:48

no, they would be the best non-P4 conference (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:37:14

Easy they would be. It wouldn't even be close that they - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:42:46

Being #5 and getting a P in front of it are now exclusive - alwaysright MU - 7/30 13:10:28

They would be the 5th best conference, but the gap would - zounami MU - 7/29 22:43:58

And also enormous between them and every other conference - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:45:55

no, that’s your ignorant opinion (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:28:03

Not mine. Fact (link) "The Big 12’s best chance at survival - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:35:48

congrats. you found someone else as stupid as you (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:47:43

I have National Football writers agreeing with me an you - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:51:37

And a lame duck commish of a soon to be defunct league - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:53:43

Yeah, he's pathetic. And they probably have to replace - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:57:00

LMFAO (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:52:07

Wait, the only way they can survive is stick together? Well - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:39:26

Yeah, no ****. That's exactly what I said in the OP sherlock - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:43:38

JFC. LOL(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:46:12

That sportswriter is clueless. No one else in the media - zounami MU - 7/29 22:38:54

Funny you idiots keep saying, "no it wouldn't" but can't - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:41:45

No offense, but you sound like a delusional beaker. (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:45:07

No, I'm being an objective independent observer for - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:47:00

you’re a dumb.ass (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:53:41

Everyone should strive to be on the opposite side of you.... - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:58:15

Haha. No. Have you heard or read any chatter about any AAC - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:51:55

Thank you for admitting what this is all about for you. You - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:55:50

I admire your dedication to your fantasy hypothetical. Those - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:58:55

Yeah, that's why the premise is that before they get - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 23:02:33

RE: Yeah, that's why the premise is that before they get - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 23:03:53

You seem so emotional about this... why? (nm) - zounami MU - 7/29 22:49:05

That's funny. You are the one that seems emotional.... - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:50:17

Without UT and OU the LB8 are no longer P5. They are just - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:44:50

But but …..pickle and TigerJack - Genco98 MU - 7/29 22:01:39

you’re an odd one, MakeShift (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:06:51

they have no brand anymore - pickle MU

- 7/29 21:47:13

They do have a brand and I already addressed what it - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 21:52:32

lol no (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:06:01

truth is they have not really been power 5 for the past - lqf2b8 MU

- 7/29 22:03:16

Yes, that ship sailed - Merlin KC - 7/29 23:41:20

Yes. AAC seems comfortable in their own skin. A very - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:05:45

You being a "KC" guy wouldn't have anything to do with - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:12:55

Ok. Stay in a strong conference that ESPN has confidence in - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:15:06

ESPN would rather have the 12 schools I listed out too... - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:22:37

Dude. Think. What would be easier? AAC add 5 and - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:33:45

Easiest is Big 12 poaching the AAC's 3 best schools and... - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:40:14

Hey dummy, the AAC will be renegotiating their deal when - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:42:26

So will the Big 12 dummy (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:43:59

Not with ESPN. AAC already has a deal with them. (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:47:44

lol. $5 million a year payout. A reconsituted Big 12 would - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:49:16

As would an expanded AAC. (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:55:04

And not close to the payout the Big 12 would command (nm) - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:59:11

How would the AAC with Baylor, TT, Okst, TCU and ISU or - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 23:01:40

LOL... do you know math? The AAC payout is $5 million - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 23:05:56

JFC. Their deal with ESPN will be redone FFS. ESPN has walke - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 23:08:45

LOL. It won't be any better and will be divided between 16 - North co-co champs MU - 7/30 09:32:56

lol (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 23:00:42

Actually; they do. - samclemens MU

- 7/29 21:48:40

At this point why would any school join B12? - jlbomega MU - 7/29 21:43:53

New Big 12 - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:01:31

This. An 11 school AAC with a TV contract that goes beyond - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 21:49:13

Big 12's 8 school poaching the AAC's top schools is a much - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 21:51:38

the LB8 isn’t poaching anyone - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:10:57

Looks like ESPN disagrees with you(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 21:53:28

ESPN disagrees with you. They denied engaging with the AAC - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 21:56:37

Lol. Ok(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:02:05

They are in no position to poach anyone. Their TV contract - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 21:43:01

But why would the MVC or AAC get a TV? So does it - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 21:50:56

inhabit reality - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:09:57

ESPN has already picked their horse it seems. (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 21:52:30

Oh sure, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa, Temple, East Carolina... they - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 21:55:54

So you are saying the commissioner of the conference you - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:07:18

So you make up things nobody said when you can't - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:09:37

What you laid out is a hypothetical that ignores the fact - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:12:16

False. The Big 12 is alive, as long as they do exactly what - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:15:32

Lol. If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle(nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:16:44

If you could argue the debate, you wouldn't resort to - North co-co champs MU - 7/29 22:24:43

it’s unbelievable (nm) - pickle MU

- 7/29 22:24:14

I think he's a closet beaker doing some wishful thinking (nm) - hefeweizen MU

- 7/29 22:35:07