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It's interesting, the whole thing

Posted on: July 19, 2021 at 08:07:37 CT
o'lineydisciple MU
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Last year, Trump pushes the vaccine, CNN and others are scared of it.

This year, Biden et al pushes the vaccine, and a certain subset of people, mostly on the right, are scared of it.

There are reasons to take the vaccine (aside: I've taken it), yet there are also reasons to consider not taking it - especially given Big Pharma's dubious ethical past.

And of course, the Biden administration, if they're indeed wanting people who are currently resistant to taking the vaccine to take it, are approaching this completely wrong.

There's a huge credibility problem with the government/media complex to a certain set of people. The past 18 months hasn't done anything to help that but instead has made things way worse and people have become WAY more skeptical about being sure to "do what the government says."

Sure, Fauci lied at least twice about masks, lockdowns may or may not work but they're so very important, and on and on. But they're telling the truth about this vaccine. The fact that the government is trying so damned hard to get the non-vaxxers to vax will likely make them dig in their heels and be even more determined not to get the vaccine.

If the Biden administration was serious about getting those folks to have a vaccine, they'd convince either George W. Bush or Trump to go on camera for a PSA encouraging the vaccine.

Because there are a hell of a lot of reasons right now why the American moderates/right do NOT trust the Biden administration or his media disciples.
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I am certainly not an anti-vaxer - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 07:57:58
     yup(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 7/19 12:40:26
     Lumping the recovered in with "Unvaccinated" is negligent - Tigerfish MU - 7/19 08:54:41
          yup(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 7/19 12:40:11
          Worse than negligent...appears to be downright dishonest - Bad Breath MU - 7/19 10:22:18
          Um, what? - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:00:04
               Shows how little they pay attention.(nm) - TigerMatt - 7/19 10:00:59
          Very well stated(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:56:52
     Awesome, make sure to keep us updated daily - TigerJackSwartz MU - 7/19 08:33:05
          He is certainly the top poster - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:22:07
          lol (nm) - pickle MU - 7/19 08:58:00
          Why would I do that daily? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:34:41
               Interesting that your original post neglected to mention - TigerJackSwartz MU - 7/19 08:51:49
                    I would expect people who come to a politics board have some - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:54:10
                         knowing what's happening on CNN is knowledge of - ashtray UF - 7/19 08:55:21
                              My OP he was referencing, and his comments I responded to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:56:18
                                   oh, I thought you were talking about playhard - ashtray UF - 7/19 08:59:55
                                        Stop making mistakes when I do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:03:17
               because you're a smug troll (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 08:42:52
                    Smug-a-lug smug-a-lug, makes ya want holler hi-de-ho.(nm) - Toger STL - 7/19 08:45:39
               You're not worried about the 99.7% in getting COVID. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 08:39:54
                    I have no idea - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:55:33
                         The flu has been around forever. The risks of the flu are - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 08:57:54
                              You are right - we don't know the long term effects - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:02:12
                                   "there is no evidence that healthy people have any long term - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:08:50
                                        There is very little reason to believe otherwise healthy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:15:03
                                             That statement is very fair. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:20:02
                                                  He truly believes the risk of the vaccine - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:23:49
                                                       That is not true - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:36:49
                                                            Give it up. You will have better luck trying to have this - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:40:18
                                                                 I am not engaging at this point hoping to resolve anything - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:42:58
                                                            Why do you use death as your only number - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:39:55
                                                                 Because we really only have good mortality numbers at this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:41:22
                                                                      There are many other good numbers - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:44:42
                                                                           There are studies on long haul effects - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:46:50
                                                                                this has now been around for over a year - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:51:37
                                                                                     So tell me how your career will end - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:58:15
                                                                                          will retire in 10-15 years - meatiger MU - 7/19 10:05:09
                                                                                               So highly speculative - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 10:07:14
                                                                                                    How is that highly speculative? - meatiger MU - 7/19 10:10:37
                                                                                                         You cannot tell me the company you will retire from - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 10:13:38
                                                                                                              I do know approximately how much money I will have - meatiger MU - 7/19 10:22:55
                                                                                Long haul, you know 18 months of long haul.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:50:32
                                                                                     You truly cannot make it up - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:58:39
                                                       Theres nothing wrong with that. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:26:05
                                                            If death is his criteria - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:35:20
                                                                 How is that proven? The vaccine has been out less than - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 10:00:38
                                                                      he is not a pre-pubescent kid - meatiger MU - 7/19 10:09:33
                                                                           Not every comparison is apples to apples. I could take a - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 10:22:13
                                                                                What a horrible analogy. That's not an apples and oranges - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:27:26
                                                                                RE: Not every comparison is apples to apples. I could take a - meatiger MU - 7/19 10:25:20
                                                                           That last point made me chuckle - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 10:18:16
                                                                      This thread has absolutely nothing to do with pre-pubescent - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:02:07
                                                                           I think you are the one struggling here. Earlier I gave my - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 10:29:18
                                                                                lol, you're an idiot. I KNOW that you already knew that - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:32:13
                    'Here take this untested product that may or may not have - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 08:50:27
                         whoa, you married a tranny? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 08:54:37
                              No, which is why she does not see the need for a prostate - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:06:05
                                   who is saying men can give birth? - ashtray UF - 7/19 09:14:28
                                        That's why we have "birthing person's day". - dangertim MU - 7/19 09:27:49
                                             these people are fringe outliers - ashtray UF - 7/19 09:48:32
                                                  RE: these people are fringe outliers - dangertim MU - 7/19 09:59:01
                                        Ignorance is bliss. You must be as happy as a retard in a - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:17:30
                                             is this your effort at engaging in discussion? (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/19 09:19:40
                                   oh, just a bad analogy (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 09:13:15
                                        a very bad analogy (nm) - pickle MU - 7/19 09:14:27
                         DISCLAIMER: Your continued participation in the pandemic - TigerJackSwartz MU - 7/19 08:53:32
                              It sounds like you are the one struggling with the math here - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:12:13
                                   What's the % chance of the vaccine killing you? (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:12:56
                                        No one knows - it is still an experimental vaccine - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:16:22
                                             Kmaw is really struggling with the concept of unknown.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:19:02
                                                  You're having a hard time following a conversation - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:21:23
                                                       We have already stated several times that the vaccine is an - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:34:34
                                                            Again, you can't follow a conversation at all. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:46:29
                                                                 When I have nearly zero concern about something - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:48:21
                                                                      I think that is the issue at hand here. I think the real - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 10:06:33
                                                                           That's not the "real" question being asked. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:14:10
                                                                           COVID has demonstrated just how many people are primarily - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 10:08:22
                                                                                yeah, reminds me a lot of the immigration issue - ashtray UF - 7/19 10:22:26
                                                                                     lol (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:23:28
                                                                                Apparently DH is one of those people since he is - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:15:29
                                                                                     I would not say that by any means - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 10:19:35
                                                                                          "Just depends on a lot of factors" - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 10:20:51
                                                                      Again, that's perfectly fine as I have said multiple times. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:51:39
                                                                           I have been clear numerous times - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 10:01:02
                                                       he obviously isn't interested in discussion - ashtray UF - 7/19 09:22:23
                                                            He is demanding a % chance of something that has been - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:38:44
                                                                 I asked a question. - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:41:31
                                                                 Remarkable how much frustration one can create by - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:40:11
                                                                      Who is frustrated? - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 09:43:22
                                                                           Not you - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:47:37
                                                            he's a lecturer - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 09:26:54
                                                                 I am indeed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:38:14
                                                                      you're confused smugs (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 09:44:10
                                                                           I am 4smugs(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:48:46
                                                                                you are a big self promoter, yes (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 09:56:55
                                                                                     There is only one reason I self promote - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:59:38
                         While a very cute response, I didn't ask why he didn't - kmawv8 KC - 7/19 08:53:26
                         what are the long term side effects of covid? (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/19 08:51:02
                              Good question, do you know for certain that there are none? - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:01:42
                                   daily interaction of kids...why is that an issue?(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/19 09:17:09
                                        Because the kids I interact with are 14-18 years old and - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 09:48:40
                                   Very reasoned and intelligent response - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 09:04:20
                                   nobody knows - ashtray UF - 7/19 09:04:11
     It's interesting, the whole thing - o'lineydisciple MU - 7/19 08:07:37
          Wrong they have never told the truth about the vax(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 7/19 12:43:13
          Good post. The general message from the gov't regarding - Sal CMSU - 7/19 08:14:01
          I don't recall CNN and others being "scared" of it - playhard KC - 7/19 08:11:18
               nice work playtard(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 7/19 12:30:02
               ^^^^ - dangertim MU - 7/19 09:30:12
               ^^^this post did not go as planned^^^ (nm) - Lerxst MU - 7/19 09:17:00
               Side Piece Kamala said she wouldn't take any vaccine... - Lerxst MU - 7/19 09:15:52
               RE: I don't recall CNN and others being "scared" of it - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/19 08:18:41
                    I am genuinely curious how those interested enough to come - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:33:11
                         it took me about 5 seconds to find that as well - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/19 08:36:26
                              Hogwash, your neuronal junctions don't synapse that fast.(nm) - Toger STL - 7/19 08:42:46
                                   fun fact - human motor reactions happen faster than the - dangertim MU - 7/19 09:53:42
                    It's like they thought Trump was in the basement - Sal CMSU - 7/19 08:20:59
                         he wasn't? (nm) - ashtray UF - 7/19 08:21:26
                              That would have been a funny photo opp (nm) - Sal CMSU - 7/19 08:29:33
                                   as long as he was wearing those big goggles - ashtray UF - 7/19 08:34:33
                                        lol (nm) - Sal CMSU - 7/19 08:48:03
               You missed reports of Trump rushing the vaccine for - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 08:17:55
               Harris said she wouldn't trust a vaccine - Sal CMSU - 7/19 08:16:44
                    As did Biden(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/19 08:19:00
               RE: I don't recall CNN and others being "scared" of it - SwampTiger MU - 7/19 08:16:28
          Rather well stated - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 7/19 08:09:28




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