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Posted on: April 27, 2020 at 11:15:54 CT

meatiger MU

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but that is my compromise. People's biggest asset is their ability to earn. There is also a need for time when it comes to retirement to allow for wealth accumulation in the background. We have moved from a country that has changed from a centrally planned wealth accumulation on your behalf (SS, pensions) to a self controlled wealth accumulation (401k, IRAs). Even in the early conversions, centrally planned wealth was taken into account as part of self controlled....and given that people are getting towards the end of their ability to earn, there is certainly a gap. My plan tries to unwind that gap, while helping those that don't have the earnings benefit.

You are correct that government will likely screw it up

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Fact vs emotion, from below. Michigan was accused of - hokie VT - 4/27 10:05:33

lmao (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:37:56

Lol(nm) - Panthera MU - 4/27 10:26:33

Good post - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/27 10:10:11

agree cookie, you are very emotional (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/27 10:09:22

People on the right don’t support commie programs like ss(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:06:47

Support no. Has there been a single conservative support SS? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:14:40

The money is not there - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:32:15

I know that for the past 30+ years my portion was withdrawn - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:40:50

here is my solution - meatiger MU - 4/27 11:02:05

So people under 50 are asked to continue paying into a - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:14:38

RE: So people under 50 are asked to continue paying into a - meatiger MU - 4/27 11:17:46

That's a centrally planned solution that would - ashtray UF - 4/27 11:06:05

I don't disagree - meatiger MU - 4/27 11:15:54

I gave no solution - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:42:16

It continues to come from workers, just as it always has. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:49:37

We are losing the number of workers - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:56:10

Those things are cyclical. People are living longer and - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:02:39

Population age profiles - meatiger MU - 4/27 11:03:27

Retirement ages are not stagnate either. There are ebbs and - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:17:19

RE: Retirement ages are not stagnate either. There are ebbs and - meatiger MU - 4/27 11:21:32

People once thought the same of feudalism and slavery(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:51:17

Bad analogy. If you disband SS with no transition it is the - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:00:25

So stop taking the money from paychecks - ashtray UF - 4/27 11:04:13

So how does that actually fix anything?(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:17:57

Eliminates it. Which is the goal (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 11:24:09

Well said. nm - jonesin - 4/27 11:03:22

The money is gone (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:41:43

Well then WE should be perfectly justified in taking it out - jonesin - 4/27 10:48:28

Good luck. You're beat. They got you, sucka (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:49:22

I've yet to start. nm - jonesin - 4/27 11:00:21

So in other words - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:23:36

That is the way the system was designed. I did not design it - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:42:53

You were lied to - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:43:36

No, our government is still solvent and billions of dollars - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:47:57

Not for you, though (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:49:51

>$23 trillion dollars - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:48:53

Are you under the impression that debt is meaningful? - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:51:28

Are you from the Trump school of business - meatiger MU - 4/27 10:59:10

only a real scumbag would advocate not paying their bills - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:55:19

I pay all of my bills. But I do not borrow in excess of my - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:08:25

And what happens when interest rate rise? - meatiger MU - 4/27 11:22:45

he’s a public school teacher - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:59:43

He’s not paying into ss then - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 11:02:58

Incorrect, I have taught for thirty years and paid into SS - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 11:21:48

you missed the point (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 11:57:42

I wasn’t replying you you putz. El said I wasn’t paying - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 12:09:07

because you are “paid” by taxes, you dummy - pickle MU

- 4/27 12:18:30

That is correct. nm - jonesin - 4/27 11:12:34

Oh wow. You really are a Demlib (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:54:22

wow (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:52:33

I see nothing wrong with that. That's what your boy FDR had - jonesin - 4/27 10:39:16

So you don't support socialism unless you - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:40:34

No... Not "some of them socialist dollars"....A portion of - jonesin - 4/27 10:45:37

I'm insinuating your are for socialism that - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:47:54

I have been against EVERY program that SS has funded - jonesin - 4/27 10:57:20

That's irrelevant. Either you support socialism or you don't - ashtray UF - 4/27 11:01:33

And there will be repercussions. The whole New Deal - jonesin - 4/27 11:19:28

That money is gone - ashtray UF - 4/27 11:25:49

he’s a parasite (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:27:38

We will add this to the long list of words you do not - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:45:38

money was taken from earners and given over to you - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:50:30

Your "understanding" LOL (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:48:31

I support SS. As you suggest, it’s current form is - hokie VT - 4/27 10:21:54

That's what a socialist would say (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:39:32

But it has been used as a petty cash jar for decades now. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:30:25

It is probably both. I would honestly have no - hokie VT - 4/27 10:43:15

Lol why are elderly people impoverished? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:56:59

Not everyone is as smart as you. Or as - hokie VT - 4/27 11:02:59

so socialism is bad, unless it’s your socialism (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 11:09:49

lmao (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:44:05

You already benefit from theft with your government - kmawv8 MU - 4/27 10:33:54

no, there is no fund, no jar, no lockbox (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:33:34

Keep electing libs like Trump who won’t change a thing - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:26:27

Lemme guess, trump is a lib and is NO DIFFERENT than - hokie VT - 4/27 10:33:22

Trump is a socialist - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:42:24

Of course there’s no difference - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:39:28

You win. I cannot argue. You are pure of thought. You - hokie VT - 4/27 10:47:30

lmao... pwned (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:50:45

lol beaten easily(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/27 10:50:03

run away, hokie (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:49:01

that’s not conservatism (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:26:03

the cognitive dissonance is strong with this one (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:19:08

Thank you for posting further proof of my post below. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:20:53

we must adopt some socialistic principles to have things - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:25:23

stay strong, babygirl (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:06:41

RE: stay strong, babygirl (nm) - *M* KC - 4/27 10:14:43

The sad thing is, he believes that this was an intelligent, - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/27 10:19:38

Pickle works hard to justify one stupid idea. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/27 10:24:21

No kids ever, pedobear - ashtray UF - 4/27 10:53:22

Thank scan for letting this stay, lying shytebag. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/27 11:10:41

natural rights is not a stupid idea (nm) - pickle MU

- 4/27 10:26:43

we hold these truths to be self evident..... (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/27 10:25:39

That all men are created equal? - MizzouTigerz MU

- 4/27 10:30:39

Is that what you think they meant? - SwampTiger MU - 4/27 10:33:56

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