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I believe there is a role for government

Posted on: March 5, 2020 at 08:57:11 CT

4TigersinMichigan MU

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I don't believe simply recognizing there is a role for government means you favor socialism if we use the standard definition of socialism in the political sense. I see that as a false and lazy argument.

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Court to cops: You're a bunch of idiots - ashtray UF - 3/5 06:15:13

the police state - pickle MU

- 3/5 07:17:22

Police need to be diligent in understanding the rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 07:13:48

They should..but they generally don't and never have. - GA Tiger MU - 3/5 08:02:08

“..... they generally don’t” - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:06:01

I was referring more to past history and - GA Tiger MU - 3/5 09:11:24

I hear you, but would just point out that saying - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:16:31

but they don't - ashtray UF - 3/5 07:35:01

Moreso lack of accountability - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:05:45

It’s not a lack of accountability (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/5 08:22:22

The hell it isn't. If I said that - GA Tiger MU - 3/5 09:12:47

I would certainly agree accountability should be a key - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:14:55

let go of the myth - pickle MU

- 3/5 08:27:36

who holds them accountable? - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:18:20

All people in positions of authority have greater power - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:26:58

Because in corporations, if it is not run well - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:38:13

That is true of all things government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:43:20

Lol now that’s laziness (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/5 08:47:40

Yet we have two parties - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:45:29

I am open to alternatives to what is currently happening - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:51:52

I prefer to be more like ummmm - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:54:37

I believe there is a role for government - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:57:11

government control of an industry is socialism - ashtray UF - 3/5 09:13:14

Not by the definition of socialism used in mainstream - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:19:55

schools are definitely socialism - ashtray UF - 3/5 09:31:33

My children have never attended public schools - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:41:44

and some people in Canada have never gone to a public - ashtray UF - 3/5 09:44:30

lmfao awesome (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/5 09:24:23

So you can use your emotion - meatiger MU - 3/5 09:00:18

Please explain to me how that was an emotional argument(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:02:25

RE: Please explain to me how that was an emotional argument(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/5 09:06:04

What you just described is an example of a thoughtful - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:10:14

When you use your beliefs and biases - meatiger MU - 3/5 09:12:44

I believe that all men are created equal - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:15:33

I understand what I am saying - meatiger MU - 3/5 09:18:59

I don't disagree with much of that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:21:05

personal beliefs - meatiger MU - 3/5 09:22:45

Not at all - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:43:34

wait! - ashtray UF - 3/5 09:45:05

but they aren't - ashtray UF - 3/5 08:18:16

Certainly not all do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 07:48:56

why don’t you support the free market? (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/5 08:08:04

We get well below 100% with our current - ashtray UF - 3/5 08:07:08

That is a different argument - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:14:04

it is the argument - ashtray UF - 3/5 08:16:38

The argument was never about whether competition would - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:37:10

It’s not laziness. It’s critical to understanding the State(nm) - pickle MU

- 3/5 08:45:05

It is a sympton(nm) - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:39:15

Lack of efficiency is almost always the outcome - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 08:41:02

that's one outcome - ashtray UF - 3/5 09:14:00

Lack of economy. Lack of choice. Corrpution. - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 09:22:15

which is exactly what we get with law enforcement - ashtray UF - 3/5 09:34:52

I don't disagree there may be better ways to handle it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 10:03:51

then we will disagree on that belief - ashtray UF - 3/5 10:06:01

Ok - you are free to be wrong - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 3/5 10:20:16

no, you are - ashtray UF - 3/5 12:32:03

no, that may be what you wanted it to be - ashtray UF - 3/5 08:37:43

He really does not get it - meatiger MU - 3/5 08:19:46

people rip on socialism and failures of gvmt - pickle MU

- 3/5 07:45:02

Cognitive dissonance (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/5 08:07:53

you live in a la la fantasy gvmt land - pickle MU

- 3/5 07:18:28

Overthrow it.... - Tigrrrr! MU

- 3/5 07:36:02