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You really should read Federalist 46 by the same author as

Posted on: October 16, 2019 at 16:05:26 CT
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the 2nd Amendment.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/fed46.asp

Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of. Notwithstanding the military establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe, which are carried as far as the public resources will bear, the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. And it is not certain, that with this aid alone they would not be able to shake off their yokes. But were the people to possess the additional advantages of local governments chosen by themselves, who could collect the national will and direct the national force, and of officers appointed out of the militia, by these governments, and attached both to them and to the militia, it may be affirmed with the greatest assurance, that the throne of every tyranny in Europe would be speedily overturned in spite of the legions which surround it.

Let us not insult the free and gallant citizens of America with the suspicion, that they would be less able to defend the rights of which they would be in actual possession, than the debased subjects of arbitrary power would be to rescue theirs from the hands of their oppressors. Let us rather no longer insult them with the supposition that they can ever reduce themselves to the necessity of making the experiment, by a blind and tame submission to the long train of insidious measures which must precede and produce it.

Edited by TigerMatt at 16:06:39 on 10/16/19
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Here's something I've always known and - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 15:57:11
     that ole Air Force historian sounds like a real pussy. - RayKinsella1922 SEC - 10/16 18:15:50
     Yes, that's exactly what they intended... - Gyro MU - 10/16 16:31:22
          it isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 16:33:11
               conclusoryanswers.com(nm) - Gyro MU - 10/16 16:37:26
                    What was the structure of this militia? Who were the members - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 17:01:51
                         By in large - MrBlueSky MU - 10/16 17:11:48
                              Yes, slave patrols were often made of state militia members. - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 17:32:57
          RE: Yes, that's exactly what they intended... - MOCO SON MU - 10/16 16:32:08
               It's not as long as folks have good aim(nm) - Mormad MU - 10/16 16:33:00
                    RE: It's not as long as folks have good aim(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 10/16 16:34:19
                         I meant to make sure that you thin the pumpkin latte crowd(nm) - Mormad MU - 10/16 16:39:25
     given that there were likely few police back then - meatiger MU - 10/16 16:22:03
          Police departments were started because big companies - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:26:43
          There were certainly laws, and courts and atty's, basically - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:26:00
               Were the Indians fluent in American jurisprudence? (nm) - JeffB MU - 10/16 17:55:00
               you ignored the question - meatiger MU - 10/16 16:29:31
                    Yes, I doubt if I know the answer.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:31:33
                         You do. It just conflicts with other beliefs you hold.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:43:35
                              Lol - meatiger MU - 10/16 16:44:41
     RE: Here's something I've always known and - None**** MU - 10/16 16:16:48
          Maybe. I would need to see the writings on that.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:19:38
               I already told you. Federalist 46.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:20:20
                    Even so, the Federalist papers were essentially essays - Mormad MU - 10/16 16:30:59
                         The author of Federalist 46 wrote the 2nd Amendment.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:35:08
                              I'm sure that he was very influential regarding the need - Mormad MU - 10/16 16:38:07
                         Very true. And its possible that a majority, at the - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:33:01
                              the revolution has absolutely nothing to do with this (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 16:38:09
                              JFC.. the Constitution was a decade AFTER the war.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:35:40
                    Ok. I did not see writing specifically saying that - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:24:23
                         WTF do you think this says? - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:37:00
                         goddamn (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 16:31:55
                              He is profoundly stupid mixing the time period of the - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:38:29
                                   it’s a waste of time trying to explain anything to him (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 16:40:08
                         Federalist 46 predates the Constitution. You are profoundly - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:28:44
                              I fail to see the significance of that. Virtually - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:30:16
                                   Because Madison wrote the 2nd Amendment and Federalist 46. - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:34:28
                                        Yes, they had that right. That doesn't mean - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:39:29
                                             If their wording was so precise why was that followed by - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/16 16:45:52
                                             because the militia was not a standing army - pickle MU - 10/16 16:41:41
                                             Who the hell do you think makes up the militia?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:41:01
     the militia was to fight against a tyrannical guvmint which - TigerFan92 MU - 10/16 16:12:50
     An armed populace was also planned as a final check against - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/16 16:11:58
          It would truly be interesting to go back in time - Mormad MU - 10/16 16:19:33
               I can't believe they would believe that this was the - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:23:09
                    The only way to prevent what we have today - Mormad MU - 10/16 16:26:15
                         Actually our Constitution was and is just fine. But in the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/16 16:37:49
                              Just the courts? - meatiger MU - 10/16 17:11:05
                                   The courts are the final arbiters of what is Constitutional. - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/16 17:15:14
                                        That is incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 17:22:32
                              Its meaningless to the extent that the SC can - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:43:27
                                   they have always done so - pickle MU - 10/16 16:44:21
                         Thats a start. And one term. Which I guess would - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:29:21
          True, and one more indication of their wisdom. Few - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:18:45
     You really should read Federalist 46 by the same author as - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:05:26
          None of that has anything to do with what - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:10:25
               Dummy, the 2nd Amendment was written AFTER the US - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:19:25
                    Yes, but we had NOT thoroughly beaten England yet, - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:21:31
                         When was the US Constitution ratified? When did the - TigerMatt STL - 10/16 16:29:29
                              I, and I think they, considered England still - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:35:25
                              1787. 1783. Hmmmmm(nm) - meatiger MU - 10/16 16:31:10
                         No. Wrong again (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 16:28:39
     Incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 10/16 16:02:16
     RE: Here's something I've always known and - MOCO SON MU - 10/16 15:59:13
          Which are perfectly legal.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 10/16 16:04:39




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