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If patriotism were simply love of country (ie, geography)

Posted on: March 29, 2019 at 08:57:16 CT

pickle MU

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that would be fine. But it isn’t; it is another form of collectivism (along with its cousin nationalism) that puts the individual in a subordinate position and strips one of his individualism. It is not individual identity but a shared identity.

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If patriotism were simply love of country (ie, geography) - pickle MU

- 3/29 08:57:16

who cares? - MIZZOUowns UGA - 3/29 11:15:30

RE: If patriotism were simply love of country (ie, geography) - MOCO SON MU - 3/29 11:05:13

Freedom fries.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/29 10:24:52

Pickle, how many Tom Cruse movies did your church make you - tcat KC - 3/29 09:49:10

Pickle is not JG.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/29 10:23:15

But it can be apart of your individual identity and it's not - TheWildcat STL - 3/29 09:15:11

Well...i disagree about the forced part - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:24:24

If you allow yourself to be indoctrinated and stay - TheWildcat STL - 3/29 09:27:35

it’s not that simple - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:36:39

You escaped. How is that possible? I am guessing choices - TheWildcat STL - 3/29 09:37:33

somewhat. I was also in my early and mid-thirties - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:41:23

There's a lot of mixed issues in this thread - ummmm MU - 3/29 09:58:07

I agree for the most part - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:08:45

It certainly does go that way on the board. - ummmm MU - 3/29 10:24:17

Would you say that patriotism is a form of pride? (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:36:49

Absolutely. Pride is an irrational emotion (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/29 10:54:25

Yeah, I'd say so. (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/29 10:46:13

I love the country. I do not love the state. I will not - TigerMatt STL - 3/29 10:28:32

Yes, spot on I'd say - ummmm MU - 3/29 10:32:37

I thought you were the former cop - Mormad MU - 3/29 10:30:11

Never been a cop. My aunt and uncle are and were police.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/29 10:38:30

My bad, Matt - mixed up my posters - Mormad MU - 3/29 10:45:10

People’s views change (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:37:23

The only thing you listed - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/29 10:01:38

Correct. That tends to be the root of many problems. (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/29 10:03:28

Absolutely (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/29 10:06:28

Parents make the choice for their kids. - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/29 09:47:00

Sure, and the mugging victim can choose to run - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:52:08

I'm pretty sure you missed mine. (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/29 09:58:03

Sounds like you were in agreement, even if you don’t realize - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:59:58

You are partially correct - mizzouSECedes STL - 3/29 10:03:31

Then i didn’t miss your point - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:11:40

Kids don't have to stand for the pledge (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 3/29 09:45:48

Well, I was in my teens when the war in the middle - TheWildcat STL - 3/29 09:43:28

It is forced on us - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/29 09:21:15

Not only that, you have to obey the laws even if you - hokie VT - 3/29 09:37:19

You have to? - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:42:18

Why should i leave? - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/29 09:39:42

You obviously don’t like it here, it’s a terrible place. Why - hokie VT - 3/29 09:47:29

Those are not analogous; they are voluntary associations (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:50:45

Nor are taxes patriotism - Spanky KU - 3/29 09:33:59

We have conscription - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/29 09:37:49

Do you agree with the idiot that belonging to a club, unlike - hokie VT - 3/29 10:03:33

Remember when you asked how does an infant owe allegiance? - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:10:29

I somewhat disagree - Mormad MU - 3/29 10:17:47

Let’s start with the first sentence - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:35:16

Let's not. - Mormad MU - 3/29 10:41:03

I would just like someone to present evidence - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:58:17

There is no evidence, any more than there is - Mormad MU - 3/29 11:15:56

That is not conscription - Spanky KU - 3/29 09:42:56

What are people signing up for? And is it the law? (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 09:57:44

The POTENTIAL for conscription being brought back - Spanky KU - 3/29 10:29:19

lol (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:32:39

The chuckle of the ignorant that cannot dispute the FACTS I - Spanky KU - 3/29 10:41:10

That's a different issue IMO(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 3/29 09:22:51

Whether forced or not - El-ahrairah BAMA - 3/29 09:29:13

I'm with you on this one. - ummmm MU - 3/29 09:20:01

it actually seems odd to me that you wouldn't want to love - blake1771 KC - 3/29 10:13:41

country =/= government (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:38:22

A bully for ol' Mizzou? - Mormad MU - 3/29 10:26:47

I love America. - ummmm MU - 3/29 10:25:40

i don't think when I wave a flag or sing the anthem, showing - blake1771 KC - 3/29 10:45:04

Well, the anthem is a war anthem regarding the govt's - ummmm MU - 3/29 10:48:01

Ditto (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/29 10:38:41

Word (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 3/29 09:20:43

it's also entirely subjective(nm) - cnk ATL - 3/29 09:07:06